So, destabilized democracies seems to be the theme of the early 21st century: the UK (Brexit), the US (twice) and now rumbles from Germany. Great
What is unstable about the US?
German coalition government collapses
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Just had a longer discussion with my wife just now why this is. So many discussions in Germany revolve around ideology and not what’s best in the situation right now.
Same in the US. Especially in the party that now lost. Maybe believing in some equality fairyland where everything is fair and equal doesn’t work. Doesn’t work for the US and doesn’t work for Germany. You need to let crazy people do crazy things (within the law of course). Many inventors were “crazy” at the time including Einstein, Turing and DaVinci to name a few. Maybe in 50 years we will talk about the government…
To the people downvoting me again. Please come with arguments instead of just clicking the “I disagree” button. I’ll happily be proven wrong but I need someone to do it. Just clicking “I disagree” doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Thank you.
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#13i once was working for bosch contractor. they have team of 2-3 people doing in half year less work than i am in one month, and yet payed 2x less.
de lead of that 2-3 team was putting some integration tests ignored and unignored several times during that time as stabilisation effort, sure they were not stabilized.
team we dependent on for car data lagged behind for month all time, and people were pieced off when i was going to sent prs to their code to speed up things.
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#14It's frustrating to watch governments constantly argue over what they should do to help the economy when what they should be arguing about is what they should undo to stop hindering the economy.
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#15So, destabilized democracies seems to be the theme of the early 21st century: the UK (Brexit), the US (twice) and now rumbles from Germany. Great
This is not destabilizing this democracy. The FDP has done that same thing before - twice! In 1966 and 1982.
Abandoning a non-functioning government and calling new elections is part of democracies. Just ask the Italians (68 governments in 76 years), or recently the French and the Brits.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Just had a longer discussion with my wife just now why this is. So many discussions in Germany revolve around ideology and not what’s best in the situation right now.
Same in the US. Especially in the party that now lost. Maybe believing in some equality fairyland where everything is fair and equal doesn’t work. Doesn’t work for the US and doesn’t work for Germany. You need to let crazy people do crazy things (within the law of course). Many inventors were “crazy” at the time including Einstein, Turing and DaVinci to name a few. Maybe in 50 years we will talk about the government…
> You need to let crazy people do crazy things (within the law of course).
Yeah, like stripping away LGBT rights or abortion? The far-right, no matter if we are talking about the US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Argentinia, Israel or the UK, has clearly stated what they want to do, and they have shown in more than enough cases (Argentinia, USA, UK) that they are willing to throw the entire nation under the bus for their ideological bullshit! And the people have suffered horribly for the foolishness of their fellow countrymen.
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#17As a German I'm quite happy with this, because the coalition was doomed to fail from the start. On that note, I read the paper of Lidner and IMHO he has good points. Germany does not have an issue with income but with spending. We spend way too much for social stuff, especially pensions. The idea proposed by the SDP would fuck every following generation over pretty hard. And to loose the debt break to funnel that mon…
I don't think the issue is spending on social stuff. There are more issues like tax evasion - even supported by the ministry of Lindner [1]. But I think the biggest issue is spending money by employing more and more governance worker. I heard that the Kanzleramt employs more people than most of the big companies in Germany. Also, you wrote CDU is corrupt, but FDP feels as corrupt as CDU. At least it looks like workin…
My comment was written with a bit of rage, I might have missed some things. So I agree with wealth tax and tackling tax evasion.
Yes, I also should've added corruption to FDP, good catch! Mövenpick. Also look at the absolute dog shit minister that is Wissing.
I also agree with reducing spending on their side.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Just had a longer discussion with my wife just now why this is. So many discussions in Germany revolve around ideology and not what’s best in the situation right now.
Same in the US. Especially in the party that now lost. Maybe believing in some equality fairyland where everything is fair and equal doesn’t work. Doesn’t work for the US and doesn’t work for Germany. You need to let crazy people do crazy things (within the law of course). Many inventors were “crazy” at the time including Einstein, Turing and DaVinci to name a few. Maybe in 50 years we will talk about the government…
> And this is while their education system is fine. Young German engineers are great I think.
German education system is not as fine as it used to be. It might still be fine at the later high school and university levels, but earlier school classes now often have a majority of kids that don't speak German, holding the whole class back. In parts of problem cities like Berlin there are even classes where no kid speaks German. We don't have enough teachers and the ones who are still there are frustrated and overworked.
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#19So, destabilized democracies seems to be the theme of the early 21st century: the UK (Brexit), the US (twice) and now rumbles from Germany. Great
What is unstable about the US?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Trump's followers raid the capitol last time (with his approval)? Seems unstable from the outside
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the issue is spending on social stuff. There are more issues like tax evasion - even supported by the ministry of Lindner [1]. But I think the biggest issue is spending money by employing more and more governance worker. I heard that the Kanzleramt employs more people than most of the big companies in Germany. Also, you wrote CDU is corrupt, but FDP feels as corrupt as CDU. At least it looks like workin…
My comment was written with a bit of rage, I might have missed some things. So I agree with wealth tax and tackling tax evasion. Yes, I also should've added corruption to FDP, good catch! Mövenpick. Also look at the absolute dog shit minister that is Wissing. I also agree with reducing spending on their side.
I edited my comment also a little bit because I wrote in rage. It really feels frustrating the political landscape (voting the "least evil" party).