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Re: Auth Wiki

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Post by api »

frde_me wrote: post #7
lolinder wrote: post #4

For me the key element of a wiki is that anyone can modify it and the changes show up instantly without pre-emptive gatekeeping. In this case it looks like contributing requires getting a PR approved by the maintainer on GitHub. If GitHub were just the UI for submitting changes I think that could actually be quite effective as a lightweight wiki solution, so long as people's changes are deployed right away and don't…

Having no kind of gatekeeping or moderation whatsoever before changes are published seems like a fantasy of another age. Nowadays, the wiki would be co-opted by some type of spam or malicious activity basically instantly.

It wasn't a fantasy, but it does belong to another age. The Internet was small back then and a much higher trust society. Today it's a war zone and everything must be locked down.

"Speak friend, and enter."

Re: Auth Wiki

#12

Post by [deleted] »

lolinder wrote: post #4

For me the key element of a wiki is that anyone can modify it and the changes show up instantly without pre-emptive gatekeeping. In this case it looks like contributing requires getting a PR approved by the maintainer on GitHub. If GitHub were just the UI for submitting changes I think that could actually be quite effective as a lightweight wiki solution, so long as people's changes are deployed right away and don't…

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Re: Auth Wiki

#14

Post by apitman »

I'm sensing a shift in the auth space. This is my very rough impression:

~20 years ago everyone rolled their own auth.

~15 years ago libraries like Passport started cropping up and gaining in popularity. I would guess this is when people started preaching "don't roll your own auth".

~10 years ago OAuth2/OpenID Connect became popular for UX reasons but only for centralized social login providers

~5 years ago Auth0/Okta was all the rage, though this is likely an HN ecochamber and maybe limited to enterprise.

The last few years it seems like self hosting is getting more popular, perhaps due to increased quality in open source offerings (Zitadel, Ory stack, many others[0]).

And very recently[1] there's been some excellent resources like OP focused more on teaching you how to roll your own again, incorporating the security lessons of the past couple decades.

[0]: https://github.com/lastlogin-net/obligator?tab=readme-ov-fil...

[1]: https://thecopenhagenbook.com/

Re: Auth Wiki

#15

Post by kybernetikos »

lolinder wrote: post #4

For me the key element of a wiki is that anyone can modify it and the changes show up instantly without pre-emptive gatekeeping. In this case it looks like contributing requires getting a PR approved by the maintainer on GitHub. If GitHub were just the UI for submitting changes I think that could actually be quite effective as a lightweight wiki solution, so long as people's changes are deployed right away and don't…

I suspect that when they call it a 'wiki', what they really mean is a 'hypertext'.

Re: Auth Wiki

#16

Post by karmakaze »

Not a Wiki--there's no Edit button.

It would be great to actually make it a wiki (and have changes recorded in git).

From the Github readme:

> Crontributing

> Missing entry? Found a typo? Please don't hesitate to create an issue or submit a pull request.

> Edit on GitHub

> The content is located in src/articles. You can find the file and click the edit button (the pencil icon) in the top right corner to start editing.

Re: Auth Wiki

#17

Post by [deleted] »

gregmac wrote: post #10
_fat_santa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a backlink game. Create a new site that is of some public good like this site. This site will probably gain domain and page authority much quicker than their main site and will attract more visitors and the key is that their page is linked through this auth.wiki site so their page (logto) will get the SEO benefit as well. But personally I don't think this is an SEO play, more like a brand awareness thing. Some e…

Auth0 has some of the best documentation on this same content, but it's in their main product docs. So this I'm sure is partly a response to that.

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Re: Auth Wiki

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Post by lolinder »

karmakaze wrote: post #16

Not a Wiki--there's no Edit button. It would be great to actually make it a wiki (and have changes recorded in git). From the Github readme: > Crontributing > Missing entry? Found a typo? Please don't hesitate to create an issue or submit a pull request. > Edit on GitHub > The content is located in src/articles. You can find the file and click the edit button (the pencil icon) in the top right corner to start editing…

> Crontributing

This is probably just a typo, but I love the unintentional pun. A wiki was called that because it allowed quick edits by its users. Crontributing to this site takes much more time...

Re: Auth Wiki

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Post by FireInsight »

karmakaze wrote: post #16

Not a Wiki--there's no Edit button. It would be great to actually make it a wiki (and have changes recorded in git). From the Github readme: > Crontributing > Missing entry? Found a typo? Please don't hesitate to create an issue or submit a pull request. > Edit on GitHub > The content is located in src/articles. You can find the file and click the edit button (the pencil icon) in the top right corner to start editing…

Each page has a 'Edit on GitHub' button. You just need your changes to be approved, so I guess it's like a moderated wiki.
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