What about using the tariffs on Chinese products to support American companies/interests?
Intel might be too big to fail
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Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#12Awesome, I can't wait for me the taxpayer to breathe life into the smoldering shell of a company where the executives and unlimited layers of useless middle management used financial engineering to fool investors about the internal situation while extracting as much money as possible and then bailing out on golden parachutes and landing in soft thick piles of bonuses. Remember when we did this in 2008 under the Obama…
> Just let it fail.
How about we do something about the financial hackers who are just laughing their way to the bank either way?
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#13Intel is the closest US has to compete on Foundry. And it doesn't take that much money relatively speaking to help them out. I also think they are not far behind. They wont replace or overthrown TSMC anytime soon. But they should be competitive enough.
My only question is do shareholders have enough patients to allow Pat to do the right thing.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#14The zombification of failed tech corps continues.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#15What about using the tariffs on Chinese products to support American companies/interests?
Tariffs, by design, would already be helping american companies/interests. The point of a tariff is to increase the cost of foreign goods, allowing untariffed companies to better compete.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not so sure. Building chips isn’t like building software.
Competing against state backed cheap labor, with little environmental oversight is incredibly hard. We've had pockets of success using automation; but a lot of the problems we create for ourselves too.
I do believe that's where tariffs would come into play. They're a politically heated topic these days, but tariffs are meant to help manage exactly such a situation.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#17Awesome, I can't wait for me the taxpayer to breathe life into the smoldering shell of a company where the executives and unlimited layers of useless middle management used financial engineering to fool investors about the internal situation while extracting as much money as possible and then bailing out on golden parachutes and landing in soft thick piles of bonuses. Remember when we did this in 2008 under the Obama…
Why can't foreign investors buy the ips, fabs and whatever's left?
I really don't like those protectionist arguments they do nothing good for any of the parties involved, merely raise the prices to consumers and deprive them of choices.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#18Awesome, I can't wait for me the taxpayer to breathe life into the smoldering shell of a company where the executives and unlimited layers of useless middle management used financial engineering to fool investors about the internal situation while extracting as much money as possible and then bailing out on golden parachutes and landing in soft thick piles of bonuses. Remember when we did this in 2008 under the Obama…
> Just let it fail. How about we do something about the financial hackers who are just laughing their way to the bank either way?
Billionaires should not exist.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#19Awesome, I can't wait for me the taxpayer to breathe life into the smoldering shell of a company where the executives and unlimited layers of useless middle management used financial engineering to fool investors about the internal situation while extracting as much money as possible and then bailing out on golden parachutes and landing in soft thick piles of bonuses. Remember when we did this in 2008 under the Obama…
Literally my same conclusion since 2008.
Hundreds of thousands of people without jobs? Let it fail.
No more domestic semiconductor company? Let it fail.
No more domestic aerospace company? LET IT FAIL.
We keep avoiding making the hard policy decisions by funneling taxpayer money into the hands of the already-wealthy who promise that this time it’ll be different, this time they won’t give it to shareholders and payout bonuses.
Let it fail. Once hundreds of thousands of Americans are jobless due to executive mismanagement and shareholder greed, will actually meaningful and impactful policy be made.
Re: Intel might be too big to fail
#20"Another reason why the Capitol and the White House wouldn’t want to see Intel fail is because it’s one of America’s top exporters, with its export revenue in 2023 exceeding $40 billion."
The capitalist class are the fucking NY Yankees of the world - never has so little been done with so much. What a bunch of greedy idiots running shit into the ground.