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Re: Mac Mini with M4 Pro is the fastest Mac ever benchmarked

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Post by zamadatix »

svpk wrote: post #5
satvikpendem wrote: post #2

Well, it'd be a surprise if the latest chip weren't the fastest. Intel is finding this out the hard way right now.

The surprise is that it’s only the second level chip (Standard, Pro, Max, Ultra) but that the M4 Pro outperforms both the M3 Max (there is no M3 Ultra at this point) and the M2 Ultra (a chip with almost twice as many cores as the M4 Pro).

Geekbench is more a "mid threading" benchmark on the multicore. Those extra 2x cores aren't really going to do much to increase the score as a result.

Re: Mac Mini with M4 Pro is the fastest Mac ever benchmarked

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Post by dan353hehe »

zamadatix wrote: post #9

Geekbench multi falls off a cliff after ~16 cores. E.g. the Epyc 9654 with 96 cores benches lower than the Ryzen 7950X with 16 cores of the same generation.

This was a surprise for me as well. I have two EPYC 9754 in a dual socket server, so 256 cores, and the test did not perform as well as I expected it too. It didn’t even load up all the cores, which is what I was needing to do.

I ended up using something else to generate the load I needed, but I can’t remember exactly what. I think it might have been a Monero benchmarking tool?

Re: Mac Mini with M4 Pro is the fastest Mac ever benchmarked

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Post by tiffanyh »

zamadatix wrote: post #9

Geekbench multi falls off a cliff after ~16 cores. E.g. the Epyc 9654 with 96 cores benches lower than the Ryzen 7950X with 16 cores of the same generation.

That's not an accurate comparison.

  Base Freq  Chip
  ---------  ----  
  2.4GHz     EPYC 9654
  4.7GHz     Ryzen 7950X
As a result, the SINGLE core performance difference is ~2x

  Geekbench Single Core - Score
  -----------------------------
  1,827      EPYC 9654
  2,986      Ryzen 7950X
Having such a large difference in single-core performance, will negate the sizable difference in total core count (96 vs 16).

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https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-epyc-9654

https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-9-7950x

Re: Mac Mini with M4 Pro is the fastest Mac ever benchmarked

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Post by 015a »

Not true, obviously: M4 Max in the new Macbook Pros has been benchmarked to be faster [1].

Its not just a little faster than the #2; looking at ~15-20% uplifts in both single and multi compared to the previous kings. The previous production single core #1 was ~3100; Apple skipped over most of the 3000s right into the 4000s.

[1] https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8593555/

Re: Mac Mini with M4 Pro is the fastest Mac ever benchmarked

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Post by echoangle »

tiffanyh wrote: post #17
zamadatix wrote: post #9

Geekbench multi falls off a cliff after ~16 cores. E.g. the Epyc 9654 with 96 cores benches lower than the Ryzen 7950X with 16 cores of the same generation.

That's not an accurate comparison. Base Freq Chip --------- ---- 2.4GHz EPYC 9654 4.7GHz Ryzen 7950X As a result, the SINGLE core performance difference is ~2x Geekbench Single Core - Score ----------------------------- 1,827 EPYC 9654 2,986 Ryzen 7950X Having such a large difference in single-core performance, will negate the sizable difference in total core count (96 vs 16). -- https://browser.geekbench.com/process…

> Having such a large difference in single-core performance, will negate the sizable difference in total core count (96 vs 16).

But why? Wouldn’t total score be approximately corecount*corescore? Of course it’s not exactly that because not all cores run full speed at the same time, but how are the cores weighted that 16 cores are better than 96 cores with half the speed each?

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