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Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by vineyardlabs » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 3:56 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #3

coffeeindex wrote: post #2

Meanwhile my M1 is still a racehorse for 90% of my use cases

But will it run Cyberpunk 2077 (yes, seriously)? https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/30/24283651/cyberpunk-2077-...

I played 40ish hours of Cyberpunk 2077 on m3 M3 Max MBP under crossover. Runs fine on medium/high settings.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by shostack » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 3:57 PM UTC

Any chance these will be competitive against dedicated gaming PCs with rtx 40xx and 50xx cards?

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by jodacola » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 3:57 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #7

Why aren't they benching it against the M3?

Good question. Random guess: there are a lot of M1 holdouts they're trying to encourage to upgrade?

There are a few such comments here already!

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by wwalexander » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 3:59 PM UTC

mostlysimilar wrote: post #9

I'm happy that Apple continues to push forward, but I suspect my M1 Max from 2021 will last me a decade or more. It's just a beast of a machine. I hope they're also working on redesigning the MacBook Pro to feature a display without a notch. I'd buy that instantly.

Seriously, I keep waiting for the FOMO to kick in but the M1 is still so great that I don’t have any.

The only hiccups I ever have are resolving Swift result builder types…perhaps SwiftUI is just a big ploy to burn up all the extra CPU cycles.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by pkage » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 3:59 PM UTC

Dupe of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41995701 (171 comments)

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by virgildotcodes » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 4:00 PM UTC

Interesting that GPU core counts and max memory remained static from M3 Max at 40 and 128 respectively, cost saving measure to account for the bump from 8 -> 16gb at the low end of the line?

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by dcchambers » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 4:00 PM UTC

A top-level M4 Max w/ 128GB of unified memory is a beast for local LLM inference. It means we could see an M4 Ultra with 256GB of memory!

I think theoretically you could run inference on Llama 3.1 405B (4 bit) on a Mac Studio which is kinda nuts.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by andrewstuart2 » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 4:01 PM UTC

shostack wrote: post #12

Any chance these will be competitive against dedicated gaming PCs with rtx 40xx and 50xx cards?

Graphics performance, no. AI, also probably no. Especially if you're talking the higher end RTX cards that cost as much as these laptops. But they'll run editors, compilers, browsers, etc as well or better than a dedicated rig.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by valley_guy_12 » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 4:01 PM UTC

pkage wrote: post #15

Dupe of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41995701 (171 comments)

Not exactly. Apple released 2 press releases today, the article you link to is about the laptops, this discussion is about the CPUs.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by kgwgk » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 4:02 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #7

Why aren't they benching it against the M3?

- less impressive results

- most people don't care because they're not contemplating upgrading after one year

- those who care will find the benchmarks elsewhere