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California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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Re: California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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My guess is this comes down to funding, and having to choose if the money will go to spend more time with students that struggle, to help them out, or with students that excel, to boost them further. And we really shouldn't be having to choose between the two, but if you had too, I don't think there's any right choice, they both have losers and winners.

Re: California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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> However, rather than helping marginalized students, these policies deny educational opportunities for gifted students of all backgrounds. It's worse than that—if public schools don't offer the kinds of advanced courses that wealthy parents expect their kids to have, the wealthy parents don't just shrug and say oh well. They pull them out of public school and put them into private school or homeschool or get them a…

That seems to be often the pitfall with socialism-within-capitalism as often done in California imo - many of these socialist-ish policies only work if there's no easy "escape hatch" or it's at least uncommon. But not having access to private alternatives also often goes against free-market ideas. Afaict, the wealthy and/or well-connected often "drive" the quality of public services - they're not going to insist on i…

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Re: California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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> However, rather than helping marginalized students, these policies deny educational opportunities for gifted students of all backgrounds. It's worse than that—if public schools don't offer the kinds of advanced courses that wealthy parents expect their kids to have, the wealthy parents don't just shrug and say oh well. They pull them out of public school and put them into private school or homeschool or get them a…

Clearly putting harrison bergeron on the required reading list backfired-- apparently some future educational administrators mistook it for an instruction manual. :D

Re: California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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That seems to be often the pitfall with socialism-within-capitalism as often done in California imo - many of these socialist-ish policies only work if there's no easy "escape hatch" or it's at least uncommon. But not having access to private alternatives also often goes against free-market ideas. Afaict, the wealthy and/or well-connected often "drive" the quality of public services - they're not going to insist on i…

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When was that decided? By who? This game of constantly changing definitions and deciding who can and cannot say what is the hallmark of a tyrannical psuedo-religious ideology that cannot tolerate dissent because its results cannot bear scrutiny.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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When was that decided? By who? This game of constantly changing definitions and deciding who can and cannot say what is the hallmark of a tyrannical psuedo-religious ideology that cannot tolerate dissent because its results cannot bear scrutiny.

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Re: California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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"reducing achievement gaps between demographic group" come on now. As long as budgets aren't being cut for normal or extra class for struggling students in order to have advance classes this is bad policy. The article also sites that those that want to take Calc as seniors would need to double up or take summer classes. This means that if you're gifted you also need to have parents that can support summer school. Whe…

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> However, rather than helping marginalized students, these policies deny educational opportunities for gifted students of all backgrounds. It's worse than that—if public schools don't offer the kinds of advanced courses that wealthy parents expect their kids to have, the wealthy parents don't just shrug and say oh well. They pull them out of public school and put them into private school or homeschool or get them a…

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Re: California Discourages Schools from Offering Advanced Middle School Math (2023)

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> However, rather than helping marginalized students, these policies deny educational opportunities for gifted students of all backgrounds. It's worse than that—if public schools don't offer the kinds of advanced courses that wealthy parents expect their kids to have, the wealthy parents don't just shrug and say oh well. They pull them out of public school and put them into private school or homeschool or get them a…

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