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I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I suspect that it may be a figure of speech, like "that tastes like piss" (or "ass" or "sh#t"). I always wondered how people knew about that

Well, most of our sense of taste is actually smell. And many people have smelled these things before.

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I think giving birth without anesthesia is far more common that tasting piss or shit. But what do I know...

Pretty common. I did.

You might wish to clarify. The board guidelines do encourage to assume the best in any comment, but many do not.

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I suspect that it may be a figure of speech, like "that tastes like piss" (or "ass" or "sh#t"). I always wondered how people knew about that

I think the smell gives you a good idea

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I suspect that it may be a figure of speech, like "that tastes like piss" (or "ass" or "sh#t"). I always wondered how people knew about that

I think giving birth without anesthesia is far more common that tasting piss or shit. But what do I know...

Oh you sweet, sweet summer child... While it's possible that you're right, I don't think that's as clear as you make it out to be. A quick google didn't give me any concrete numbers, but at least for Urine, according to Wikpedia, " watersports (meaning urolagnia) was ranked ninth in popularity among sexual fetishes in the United Kingdom"[0], and " 1999 study of 164 males in Finland from two SM clubs found that 18.2% had engaged in coprophilia"[1] (of course, this number is for a sub-population that is more likely to try out kinks).

I don't have good numbers for birthing without any anesthesia either, but the Australian Institute of Health and Wealthfare claims that "In 2022, 4 in 5 (80%) women who had labour in Australia received pain relief"[2].

Giving birth is a "0-3 times in a lifetime" event, while sex is a much more high-frequency thing. I'm assuming even people who engage in these fetishes do that every time they have sex, but still many more times than they'd give birth.

So let's try to come up with some numbers: lets say we have 8 billion people on earth, and 1% of the adult population engages in watersports or scat, and they do so 10 times a year for 30 years of their life. That's 300 * 80M = 24B times someone eats shit / drinks piss in the next 30 years.

On the other hand, let's say we have ~4 billion women on earth, each gives an average of 2 children in the next 30 years, and 20% do that without pain relief. That's 4B * 2 * 0.2 = 2B births without pain relief in the next 30 years.

I don't think that what you're saying adds up.

Sources:

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urolagnia

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophilia

[2] https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/mothers-babies/australias-mo...

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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Phags are really promising in case of antibiotics-resistant bacterias. However I wonder how long does it take to find out the bacteria is resitant, breed new phages and apply them.

It's because from my experience doctors usually give me antibiotics even BEFORE they find out what bacteria I have. "Oh you have pneumonia, better give you clavulanic acid". Next time they provide me with something else. When I asked "should we make a bacterial culture" - they say "it will take so much time, better take the antibiotics now".

For a sick person after antibiotics therapy and after culture test results, those days/weeks to raise another culture of phages might be deadly.

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I think giving birth without anesthesia is far more common that tasting piss or shit. But what do I know...

Oh you sweet, sweet summer child... While it's possible that you're right, I don't think that's as clear as you make it out to be. A quick google didn't give me any concrete numbers, but at least for Urine, according to Wikpedia, " watersports (meaning urolagnia) was ranked ninth in popularity among sexual fetishes in the United Kingdom"[0], and " 1999 study of 164 males in Finland from two SM clubs found that 18.2%…

Australia is a wealthy country with a low birth rate. It is not representative of global non-anesthetic rates. The average woman globally is poorer (less likely to have pain relief) and more likely to be pregnant in her lifetime.

And just because someone “engages in watersports” doesn’t mean they know what urine or feces taste like.

And the question was about the number of people. You included statistics regarding the number of events. Going off your own numbers, 1% play water sports, 20% of women (10% of people) give birth without pain killers. Seems pretty clear to me.

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I think giving birth without anesthesia is far more common that tasting piss or shit. But what do I know...

Pretty common. I did.

Curious, would you say it was the most painful thing you’ve experienced?

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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Dysentery is no joke: the defining symptom, blood in your stool, comes from your intestinal lining sloughing off. A good friend of mine got it in India and said the waves of pain whenever she had to defecate were worse than giving birth without anesthetics. The one upside is that dysentery is common enough in India that it was promptly recognized and treated, with a single giant horse pill targeting both bacillary &…

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She most probably participated in a birth event, some years ago

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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I suspect that it may be a figure of speech, like "that tastes like piss" (or "ass" or "sh#t"). I always wondered how people knew about that

clearly you didn't have the right group of friends in college

Re: I got dysentery in a human challenge trial

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Dysentery is no joke: the defining symptom, blood in your stool, comes from your intestinal lining sloughing off. A good friend of mine got it in India and said the waves of pain whenever she had to defecate were worse than giving birth without anesthetics. The one upside is that dysentery is common enough in India that it was promptly recognized and treated, with a single giant horse pill targeting both bacillary &…

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Births without anesthesia are not unusual at all. Tho it is also a figure of speech.
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