The fact that US labour laws are this weak is a travesty. You can just circumvent severance by making working conditions unpleasant and you don’t even need to hide it.
Is severance guaranteed by law? I don’t think it is in California at least
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#12The fact that US labour laws are this weak is a travesty. You can just circumvent severance by making working conditions unpleasant and you don’t even need to hide it.
Aren’t they just reverting to the same working conditions they had from the time they were founded until sometime in 2020?
Circumventing severance here seems like quite an overstatement.
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I hope the next time there is a pandemic like Covid that we do more sensible things like not ban access to outdoor activities, shutdown beaches, shutdown everything for months, destroy the economy, etc..
Also ironically WFH is great unless you are the poor soul who still needs to work on the “front line” every day like warehouse workers, delivery drivers, etc.
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#14I wonder which tech company will be the first to take this too far and implode because of some easily-avoidable cataclysm. I think in some ways you could say Twitter / X already did although they are still limping along for now...
It’s a fairly calculated move, as they know market for engineers isn’t in the best shape, so a significant chunk will keep working with no complaints. They also ramped up hiring heavily, if the number of messages I get from Amazon’s recruiters is an indicator.
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#15The fact that US labour laws are this weak is a travesty. You can just circumvent severance by making working conditions unpleasant and you don’t even need to hide it.
No one is making the working conditions unpleasant. The company which pays you to do work wants its employees to be in the office. If you don’t like it. Don’t work there. Looks like all the employees about to lose their work from home jobs are upset and downvoting.
If your work contract and agreement has remote office, guess what? That's a breach of contract.
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#16Any statistics on the kind of people that stick to office work. A, B, or C players?
Introverts vs extroverts, programmers vs project managers..
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#17This is a strategy to get rid of non H1B workers. It’s pure discrimination
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I don't think Amazon is making a good decision here, but what makes you think the existing workers who are happy to work from the office would not be willing to work from home during a crisis if asked? A global crisis necessitating a transition to working from home should not immediately result in a company like Amazon needing to substantially hire more staff, in fact, that is probably a big part of what got them int…
They hired because there was demand. People had Prime and were scared to go out so they ordered.
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No one is making the working conditions unpleasant. The company which pays you to do work wants its employees to be in the office. If you don’t like it. Don’t work there. Looks like all the employees about to lose their work from home jobs are upset and downvoting.
If your work contract and agreement has remote office, guess what? That's a breach of contract.
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#20I wonder which tech company will be the first to take this too far and implode because of some easily-avoidable cataclysm. I think in some ways you could say Twitter / X already did although they are still limping along for now...
I remember reading a blog post many years ago that stuck with me, I don't remember the title of the post or who wrote it but it was essentially along the lines of "beware when companies start to take away the free snacks". It made a pretty convincing argument about how even seemingly minor changes like that start to signal a greater shift in the companies attitude toward how they want to treat and be perceived by their staff.
I think a lot of Amazonians, even those who choose to stay, will look back on this as their "no more free snacks" moment (I also think there are probably many Amazonians who are already past that point, but that is a different topic).