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Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#11

This feature may single-handedly make me pay for Kagi rather than using the free trial searches. Looking for drawing references is infuriating these days with the amount of AI.

For Google Images I've had success with filtering by date to exclude everything posted since about 2023.

That said this feature might still be useful, especially if it's extended to normal search results for sites with AI-generated articles etc.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#12

this is a dumb feature, you should judge an image by your perception of it, not how it was created (ie machine or human made). the anti ai-generated image crowd is a loud minority, they won't matter in the long term and spending dev time on this is questionable decision making at best. now if you're a forensics company or that is the angle, then yeah it could be an interesting tool to have, might be even more profita…

I agree that the source of an image often doesn't matter. But while it's completely _possible_ to make high quality images with AI that match almost any style you want, the current _reality_ is that most AI generated images are slop with an obvious "AI" feel to them, that most people are often not looking for. If I can get rid of those in an automated way, that saves me a _bunch_ of manual decisions, and makes finding what I'm looking for easier and faster.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#13

this is a dumb feature, you should judge an image by your perception of it, not how it was created (ie machine or human made). the anti ai-generated image crowd is a loud minority, they won't matter in the long term and spending dev time on this is questionable decision making at best. now if you're a forensics company or that is the angle, then yeah it could be an interesting tool to have, might be even more profita…

A tool to help filter out AI content is useful if you are looking for real content. Anyway, who's being anti-AI in this case?

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#15
In the example in the docs, they show someone marking an image that has slipped through the filter as one that's AI generated. But, it comes from Adobe Stock - and I think this really highlights the biggest weakness with how they've gone about implementing this. It's not looking at the images at all, it's looking at where they come from.

The problem is that now that Pandora's box has been opened, all sorts of sites (incl. anywhere like social media that accepts user content) are going to have comingled AI-and-legitimate images that they host.

This is a hard problem to solve.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#16

this is a dumb feature, you should judge an image by your perception of it, not how it was created (ie machine or human made). the anti ai-generated image crowd is a loud minority, they won't matter in the long term and spending dev time on this is questionable decision making at best. now if you're a forensics company or that is the angle, then yeah it could be an interesting tool to have, might be even more profita…

It is very cumbersome to look at individual images in the search for e.g. reference images just to sort out the garbage. Using AI images for that would defeat the purpose. Not just because of the fact that training AI with AI output degrades the model, indicating it's a net negative on average.

It's not a dumb feature, this is what I wished for less than a week ago when using Google. I don't want my time wasted from judging AI images based on perception, I don't even want to perceive them.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#17
I tried the the linked example search for "baby cat" and it returned the same three AI cats you can see in their Google search comparison screenshot on the first page. None of them labeled as AI generated.

Edit: When I explicitly choose to "Include" AI images from the toolbar option, they disappear. When I choose to "Exclude" them, they reappear. Still seems a bit buggy.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#18
post #5

This is a solid idea, but I wish they addressed the elephant in the room — image search is by far the weakest part of Kagi. For a considerable portion of queries, a large part of the results isn't relevant. If you use filters, they're often ignored or don't apply correctly. Many images are tangentially related at best. The list goes on. I've been paying for Kagi for a long while, yet I've seen nearly no improvements…

Would you mind being specific and posting a search quality issue with a concrete example(s) to kagifeedback.org? We are keen to address the issues you are seeing.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

#20
post #5

This is a solid idea, but I wish they addressed the elephant in the room — image search is by far the weakest part of Kagi. For a considerable portion of queries, a large part of the results isn't relevant. If you use filters, they're often ignored or don't apply correctly. Many images are tangentially related at best. The list goes on. I've been paying for Kagi for a long while, yet I've seen nearly no improvements…

Yandex image search is really good.
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