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Thinking about it, steam should force this on every game developer that has cheating problem (I am assuming mainly shooters), maybe implemented better fingerprinting way, giving developers options to hide cookies somewhere in folders of their choosing.
Server side only anti-cheat is one of the problem domains that I'd really love to work on at some point in my career. This is the type of adversarial arms race that just seems really fun to think long and hard about.
> If a player joins with a different Steam ID but with an IP address that is already banned, the system now re-bans them This works great until you realize you're punishing innocent players because of CGNAT and IP addresses getting rotated. Cheaters usually know how to get their router to request a new IP address. That IP address then gets assigned to someone else later.
> If a player joins with a different Steam ID but with an IP address that is already banned, the system now re-bans them This works great until you realize you're punishing innocent players because of CGNAT and IP addresses getting rotated. Cheaters usually know how to get their router to request a new IP address. That IP address then gets assigned to someone else later.
Really? I would expect that a dedicated cheater would reinstall Windows (or reload from a snapshot) every time they are caught.
I know you’re joking, but if you had filed a patent you would have had to reveal the trick, thus rendering it immediately useless.
Doesn’t detract at all from your post. Fun read.
It's crazy how rampant cheating in multiplayer games, especially competitive ones has gotten. Ten years ago, I thought it was at an extreme, but it's only gone up since then.
Part of the problem is that for some software developers, writing cheats brings in a massive amount of money.
So instead of some teenager messing around making unsophisticated cheats, you have some devs that are far better at writing cheats than game developers are at preventing them.
It doesn't help that game devs have to secure everything, everywhere, but cheat devs only have to find a single flaw.
> If a player joins with a different Steam ID but with an IP address that is already banned, the system now re-bans them This works great until you realize you're punishing innocent players because of CGNAT and IP addresses getting rotated. Cheaters usually know how to get their router to request a new IP address. That IP address then gets assigned to someone else later.
This scenario definitely did pop up and we would review it on a case by case basis to unban users or make exceptions. However, it was quite rare. Only a handful of reported instances over several months. If our servers were more popular we definitely would have run into it a lot more.
Fixed