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Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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I remember my wife describing the funny look she got from our "traditional" next door neighbor as she took the latest edition of the BSD journal out of the mailbox. Never went any further than that.

But if you choose to use a literal hell-themed demon as your product's logo, don't be surprised if it limits your user base.

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

#12

I am trying to grasp what I have just read. I may be able to understand if this is sarcasm probably

I don't know if this story is true, but the story of Greek police raiding my local D&D store and confiscating all books to check for satanism in 2001 is very true. For a long time, Kaissa (the store) was left without manuals or adventure books.

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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It's such a shame, because I really like the FreeBSD/NetBSD daemon logo, the FreeBSD project had a lot of nice variations in the past for the Walnut creek CD-ROM sets [1]. The 'glass ball with horns' is far more boring, and I'm sure would still offend some people because it has horns.

[1] E.g. https://i.redd.it/ha7w5438mq031.jpg

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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The BSD logo was originally drawn by John Lassetter , who would later write and direct Toy Story and a couple of other successful movies. https://www.jacobelder.com/2024/01/17/director-of-toy-story-... Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39030991 EDIT: While the John Lassetter version became most popular he did not draw the original. Thanks to dagmx for pointing that out and the additional backg…

This is sort of incorrect. The BSD daemon was originally drawn by Phil Foglio. As seen here https://www.mckusick.com/beastie/jpg/foglio.jpg

Lasseter did a later (more current and iconic) revision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon?wprov=sfti1

Also John did more than just direct Toy Story.

Lasseter was one of the founders of Pixar , directed several movies, took over the chief creative officer role for both Pixar and Walt Disney Animation, before eventually leaving after several allegations of sexual impropriety. He’s now heading up Skydance Animation for Larry Elissons son, and has a contractual liability clause for any further impropriety.

One of the big “never meet your heroes” examples, along with the other Pixar co-founder, Ed Catmull who was behind the industry wide wage fixing scandal. On the flip side he also invented so many technologies that are key to computer graphics today, including the alpha channel.

Somehow Steve jobs, famously abrasive, was the least problematic of the founders.

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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post #9

I am trying to grasp what I have just read. I may be able to understand if this is sarcasm probably

Having lived through the 90s as a young adult, I can assure you back then the Family Values crowd was just as annoying and censorious as the Woko Haram is today. 2011 seems a bit late for that kind of thing, but it's entirely plausible a few NPCs didn't get the patch yet.

Down under, we have a term for them: wowsers [0]

The term was coined a hundred years ago. Every generation has a different version of the moral scare that will corrupt the children and needs urgent policing. The policing is always about controlling other people's behaviour (rather than, for example, educating the children).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wowser

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having lived through the 90s as a young adult, I can assure you back then the Family Values crowd was just as annoying and censorious as the Woko Haram is today. 2011 seems a bit late for that kind of thing, but it's entirely plausible a few NPCs didn't get the patch yet.

Down under, we have a term for them: wowsers [0] The term was coined a hundred years ago. Every generation has a different version of the moral scare that will corrupt the children and needs urgent policing. The policing is always about controlling other people's behaviour (rather than, for example, educating the children). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wowser

The latest version also goes after adults.

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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post #14

The BSD logo was originally drawn by John Lassetter , who would later write and direct Toy Story and a couple of other successful movies. https://www.jacobelder.com/2024/01/17/director-of-toy-story-... Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39030991 EDIT: While the John Lassetter version became most popular he did not draw the original. Thanks to dagmx for pointing that out and the additional backg…

This is sort of incorrect. The BSD daemon was originally drawn by Phil Foglio. As seen here https://www.mckusick.com/beastie/jpg/foglio.jpg Lasseter did a later (more current and iconic) revision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon?wprov=sfti1 Also John did more than just direct Toy Story. Lasseter was one of the founders of Pixar , directed several movies, took over the chief creative officer role for both Pix…

So both children of Larry are doing movies then, right? The daughter did the movie Her, which is funny, cause OpenAI used the same concept for ads.

Wonder if my children would achieve my dream to be a director. I only got it to being on stage as an assistant professor, and a deejay. And promoter also. The promoter is sort of director, but is more an executive production role really.

Re: Superstitious Users and the FreeBSD Logo

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I remember my wife describing the funny look she got from our "traditional" next door neighbor as she took the latest edition of the BSD journal out of the mailbox. Never went any further than that. But if you choose to use a literal hell-themed demon as your product's logo, don't be surprised if it limits your user base.

I don't think 'making it big' is the point of FreeBSD anyway. Right now the share of the desktop market is 0.01% (of which I'm a proud part)

I'm not hoping for 'the year of FreeBSD'. I wouldn't even want that to happen because with that comes much commercial involvement like Linux is seeing.

There's always reasons people don't choose a product and there's much much bigger ones leading people not to choose FreeBSD than this.

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