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Re: Are junior devs cooked? This mini tool made in 20 min of prompting ReplitAI

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Post by Terr_ »

MBCook wrote: post #10
Terr_ wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worry there's an executive zeitgeist of: "Let someone else train them up, then we'll hire them away afterwards."

Yeah it’s already been going on. All the “you need 5 years of experience for entry level work” stuff you see. Encouraging AI to replace people is just going to make it worse, on top of all the other possible issues.

I'm struck by a quixotic idea where future-companies return to a "X years service for a gold watch and a pension" approach. I don't actually think it would happen though.

A not-too-dreary idea: Perhaps the the beginning of the career-arc will change in terms of how quickly developers need to focus on code-reviews and diagnostics (of LLM output) at the expense of "read the docs and follow a guide." Of course that depends on a cultural understanding that LLM output must be checked, and that may take some major industry to become accepted by non-developer bosses, if ever.

Re: Are junior devs cooked? This mini tool made in 20 min of prompting ReplitAI

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Post by johnrushx »

codingdave wrote: post #7

Are carpenters cooked? I went to home depot, bought a hammer, nails, and some wood, and built a mini shelf. Building trivial tools with AI doesn't mean that devs won't have jobs. It might mean that people won't be able to make a living whipping out brochure-ware web sites for their friends, but that market was just about dead anyway. And maybe it will even be able to handle basic CRUD apps. That doesn't mean the indu…

I didn't mean all-dev, but "junior" devs.

Re: Are junior devs cooked? This mini tool made in 20 min of prompting ReplitAI

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Post by johnrushx »

MBCook wrote: post #5

What happens if you get rid of all the tasks for junior devs? How do you get medium/senior devs in the future? That pipeline is needed.

yeah that's my key concern.

or it might also be the opposite and junior devs may be using AI and learn faster.

In my own biz, I stopped hiring junior devs because it's faster for me to use AI for coding than to explain what I need and then validate the implementation with code-review...

Re: Are junior devs cooked? This mini tool made in 20 min of prompting ReplitAI

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Post by MBCook »

Terr_ wrote: post #11
MBCook wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it’s already been going on. All the “you need 5 years of experience for entry level work” stuff you see. Encouraging AI to replace people is just going to make it worse, on top of all the other possible issues.

I'm struck by a quixotic idea where future-companies return to a "X years service for a gold watch and a pension" approach. I don't actually think it would happen though. A not- too -dreary idea: Perhaps the the beginning of the career-arc will change in terms of how quickly developers need to focus on code-reviews and diagnostics (of LLM output) at the expense of "read the docs and follow a guide." Of course that de…

My concern is that’s not a good way of learning, that it will produce lower quality devs than the traditional model. Or at least takes longer to get to the same point.

I’ve already seen higher level devs ask AIs questions and just copy/paste the answer without checking it as if that’s useful or trustworthy. How is a junior supposed to learn?

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