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#11

I think it is a cultural issue. In parts of Eastern and Southern Europe it is customary to have a shot of spirits in the morning. In many other countries it is normal to have a glass of wine with lunch. I'm not an alcoholic. Alcoholics go to meetings. I go to parties.

> In parts of Eastern and Southern Europe it is customary to have a shot of spirits in the morning.

Meh, the local word for Eastern European people having to have shots of spirits in the morning is "an alcoholic". It is just there is a lot of them.

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#13
Dawg please don’t do this. I used to suffer panic attacks most anytime I left my house. I self medicated with benzos I bought off Silk Road during the day and at night whiskey. I do not recommend this path for the following reasons:

1. Tolerance. This is the most pragmatic reason. The dose that works today will not have the same effect tomorrow as your body builds a tolerance. This leads to:

2. Physical dependence. If you become physically dependent on alcohol (or benzodiazepines) you will have serious withdrawal effects if you don’t taper. You won’t be able to stop anytime.

3. Mental dependence. Life was worse for me when I had to worry about maintaining my supply of benzos and whiskey. It’s like a chain tying you down.

4. Mental clarity. I find I’m able to think better with no substances.

I found a therapist specializing in panic disorder and it was immensely helpful. I have since had a bit of a regression but went back to therapy and now I’m essentially anxiety free. Or more accurately I know how to manage it and not stop me from doing what I want to do.

Please look into therapy it can really help. You will be investing in a long term skill instead of a short term fix.

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#14

I think it is a cultural issue. In parts of Eastern and Southern Europe it is customary to have a shot of spirits in the morning. In many other countries it is normal to have a glass of wine with lunch. I'm not an alcoholic. Alcoholics go to meetings. I go to parties.

It's not customary, it's a widely recognized problem that a significant portion of the population starts the day with liquor. Maybe for blue collar workers it's more normalized, but if a white collar has such habit then they will try to cover it up.

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#15
I cannot speak to agoraphobia or hyper anxiety. Otherwise alcohol is toxic. Recent medical studies have reached the consensus that no amount of medicinal benefit sufficiently makes up for the toxic damage inflicted by alcohol consumption. Thus the only remaining medicinally qualified use of alcohol remains that of a topical antiseptic. Thus from a purely medical perspective alcohol consumption is recreational drug use and in no way therapeutic.

As an unrelated curiosity there is tremendous research into hyper neuroticism because it is directly correlated to high anxiety and high anxiety is bad. However there appears to be next to no research into hypo neuroticism as though it is inherently an unlimited good. I can tell you from experience it isn’t.

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#16
post #7

How long have you been having a single drink a day? If it’s been a year or longer - you’re unique in not forming an addiction. If not - you’re playing with fire.

/citation needed

Is there evidence that everyone else in the world would be “addicted” to alcohol if they consumed a single drink (one unit, 25mL of 40% spirits of equivalent) for more than 364 days?

I really think you shouldn’t be throwing around such generalisations when someone is attempting to promote a serious discussion about the rational ‘use’ of alcohol.

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#17
I think you should work with your doctor on resolving this. Using alcohol as a crutch sounds like it could lead to more problems.

Are you on any meds? Is this not perhaps a side-effect of something?

Have you tried Ashwagandha? Perhaps ask your doctor about it (although it's just a supplement), it reduces cortisol. Even if it's not a cure it could help with the stress.

Have you tried exposure therapy? E.g. going to a place outside, wait there for at least 40 mins, and see slowly go further and further. Has a doctor said anything about this?

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#18

I cannot speak to agoraphobia or hyper anxiety. Otherwise alcohol is toxic. Recent medical studies have reached the consensus that no amount of medicinal benefit sufficiently makes up for the toxic damage inflicted by alcohol consumption. Thus the only remaining medicinally qualified use of alcohol remains that of a topical antiseptic. Thus from a purely medical perspective alcohol consumption is recreational drug us…

I think it's also used in cases of poisoning with methanol.

Re: Therapeutic Benefits of Alcohol?

#20

I think it is a cultural issue. In parts of Eastern and Southern Europe it is customary to have a shot of spirits in the morning. In many other countries it is normal to have a glass of wine with lunch. I'm not an alcoholic. Alcoholics go to meetings. I go to parties.

Yes, the alcoholic parts.

In their defence, if you had to wake up to being in east Europe you'd drink too.

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