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The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Can you name a handful? I don't argue that there are no such people, but I don't think there's a tonne of them.

Marc Andreessen, Ben Horowitz, Robin Klein, Bill Gates, Silvio Berlusconi, Michael Bloomberg, Niklas Zennström

Marc Andreessen: cofounded Netscape and then OpsWare and Ning and now is a VC. Serial to the max.

Ben Horowitz: Opsware and then VC. A Morten Lund character.

Bill Gates: already addressed in both the article and another comment

Silvio Berlusconi: I don't know much about his business history, but a quick glance at his Wikipedia page shows he started multiple businesses. Definitely not a one-business-and-retire type.

Michael Bloomberg: Ok, that one may be an example.

Niklas Zennström: Skype, Kazaa, Joltid, Joost, and now a VC. Serial to the max.

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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I agree with a lot of what the author says, but I am not sure I agree with the main premise in his title. Luck and timing often play a big role in setting up a business. I think there are some people who saw an opportunity through being in the right place at the right time and created a business out of it. Often these evolve into being what people call lifestyle businesses. In my mind these people don't fit into the…

That's an interesting angle, though I would argue that what you're defining here is a very successful serial entrepreneur, rather just a "serial entrepreneur". I'd say that someone who willingly jumps into startup after startup is a serial entrepreneur - successful or not. Max Levchin was clearly a serial entrepreneur already after his 6th company, even though he hadn't started Skype and Slide yet...

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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I agree with a lot of what the author says, but I am not sure I agree with the main premise in his title. Luck and timing often play a big role in setting up a business. I think there are some people who saw an opportunity through being in the right place at the right time and created a business out of it. Often these evolve into being what people call lifestyle businesses. In my mind these people don't fit into the…

That's an interesting angle, though I would argue that what you're defining here is a very successful serial entrepreneur, rather just a "serial entrepreneur". I'd say that someone who willingly jumps into startup after startup is a serial entrepreneur - successful or not. Max Levchin was clearly a serial entrepreneur already after his 6th company, even though he hadn't started Skype and Slide yet...

We could look at through a different lens and state that if you aren't jumping into startup after startup - successful or not - are you even an entrepreneur?

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Great quote to finish: "It means you should not burn relationships, piss off people, take damaging shortcuts - because you're in this small world of entrepreneurship for a long time to come. It means you should always act as if your behaviour as a founder will be with you for the rest of your career - because it will." so true. Thank you!!

And even if you did[burn relationship, piss off people, take damaging shortcuts ], you will find the more intelligent people are apt to forgive. Making mistake in the past is no reason not to try again.

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Really good article, at first I started reading on the defensive because I am a serial entrepreneur. For 28 years of my life I never had a payroll check from anyone but my own companies. It was amazing and painful at the same time. I thought about starting my sixth company and I got a chance to be an SVP at a very large public company. I did that for a while and really enjoyed it and actually moved on to a new company now were I'm an executive and get to do a lot of cool stuff.

I often debate on going back to start company six, and many saturdays my circle of friends hold "startup circle" where we pitch ideas and push a couple small projects forward and debate on quitting our real jobs and going back to building another company.

I would say the best realization of this article is that entrepreneur is a state of mind. A willingness to create from nothing in the face of extreem adversity. I have been a developer for close to 30 years now also and it's very much like that first couple of hours when you stare at the blank screen thinking about the 100,000's of lines of code needed to build whatever system it is you're about to build. Except it's more addicting then that because the scale is so much larger and your "vision" collides with "reality" and becomes something you can influence but often you end up along for the ride.

I personally would bet it's the same reason professional bull rider's ride bulls. Most of us look at them like they're insane but they have this zen approach to managing risk and the randomness of the bull trying to kill them. And when they beat the other guy the "high" must be quite insane.

Entrepreneurs suffer from the same sort of bold blindness. I have spoken with many people over the years who ask me "how can you do that, how do you get out of bed every day and just push forward" and I tell them I just like the challenge. To them they see me risking my family, my house, my car and my career to do something that scares them to death. To me I see the opportunity to express something that burns in the core of my soul and make something from nothing on a scale that should scare me but really just excites me!

I think the saying "40 years of work in 4 years" is a bit unfair, the reality is if you love what you do and are passionate about it you can work like this in a company that already exists or a mid-term C round start-up and have a lot of fun and potentially be well rewarded. That part is just the workaholic that might give an entrepreneur slight edge and a chance to ride the bull just a bit longer then the next guy.

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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That's an interesting angle, though I would argue that what you're defining here is a very successful serial entrepreneur, rather just a "serial entrepreneur". I'd say that someone who willingly jumps into startup after startup is a serial entrepreneur - successful or not. Max Levchin was clearly a serial entrepreneur already after his 6th company, even though he hadn't started Skype and Slide yet...

We could look at through a different lens and state that if you aren't jumping into startup after startup - successful or not - are you even an entrepreneur?

Well, that's sort of my point... serial entrepreneurs are the norm. Perhaps we should come up with a term for those rare entrepreneurs who are satisfied with a single attempt at the business game...

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Great quote to finish: "It means you should not burn relationships, piss off people, take damaging shortcuts - because you're in this small world of entrepreneurship for a long time to come. It means you should always act as if your behaviour as a founder will be with you for the rest of your career - because it will." so true. Thank you!!

Funny I thought the same thing, I've been in business for almost 30 years now and I can still call people I worked with 25 years ago and they will work with me in an instant. The number of times I have looped back around and ran into the same people over and over is funny. Especially considering over time I have moved through many different industries.

The golden rule applies to to entrepreneurs too. Karma is a bitch and worth paying attention to in life as in business.

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Great quote to finish: "It means you should not burn relationships, piss off people, take damaging shortcuts - because you're in this small world of entrepreneurship for a long time to come. It means you should always act as if your behaviour as a founder will be with you for the rest of your career - because it will." so true. Thank you!!

And even if you did[burn relationship, piss off people, take damaging shortcuts ], you will find the more intelligent people are apt to forgive. Making mistake in the past is no reason not to try again.

tit for tat with room for forgiveness

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Isn't a serial entrepreneur any entrepreneur that hasn't created a company as large as Google or Apple or Microsoft?

In tech, it's possible to iterate indefinitely until reaching such size that it no longer requires a completely new company to be motivated to go on.

Re: The myth of the serial entrepreneur

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We could look at through a different lens and state that if you aren't jumping into startup after startup - successful or not - are you even an entrepreneur?

Well, that's sort of my point... serial entrepreneurs are the norm. Perhaps we should come up with a term for those rare entrepreneurs who are satisfied with a single attempt at the business game...

I would just say it's something entrepreneurial they are doing, doesn't per say make them an entrepreneur - perhaps it does though; If you're learning a musical instrument, are you not a musician? Maybe not a professional. Professional Entrepreneur vs. Amateur? :P Serial Entrepreneur has a better ring to it, though it really is just someone who is an entrepreneur IMHO.
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