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Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by dkga »

swatcoder wrote: post #8
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

I wouldn't suggest people "hack" self-care/hygeine habits like nesting to avoid turning off some prospective date or hookup. The lady on the train isn't literally getting turned off by the mattress resting on the floor. They're getting turned off because the image they see represents someone deeply alienated from the instinctive desire to attend to one's space (nest). The one neat trick of putting a mattress on the f…

Excellent point. And it doesn’t need to be much. If a person is really minimalistic, even a single piece of good-taste furniture would suffice.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

dkga wrote: post #11
swatcoder wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't suggest people "hack" self-care/hygeine habits like nesting to avoid turning off some prospective date or hookup. The lady on the train isn't literally getting turned off by the mattress resting on the floor. They're getting turned off because the image they see represents someone deeply alienated from the instinctive desire to attend to one's space (nest). The one neat trick of putting a mattress on the f…

Excellent point. And it doesn’t need to be much. If a person is really minimalistic, even a single piece of good-taste furniture would suffice.

Tired: mattress on floor

Wired: Eames chair next to mattress on floor.

Thank you both for the Wednesday laughs.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by potato3732842 »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

The other side of that coin is that if she can't tolerate mattress on floor to access tech money then maybe the other guy dodged a bullet too depending on what he's after. I found myself turning down the class intentionally a lot because my current income/wealth level exceeds the norm for my background at my age and I don't want to live with someone who doesn't share my social/cultural norms.

It reminds me of a passage in IIRC it was Keith Richards biography (maybe not him, but definitely one of the Rolling Stones) where he was flabbergast at what his wife (he married up in some ways) spent on a chandelier. Not that he couldn't afford it, but he just wasn't from the kind of background where you spend a bunch of money on a chandelier and was rather ticked off by the expense.

All that said, a f-ing bed frame seems like a pretty stupid thing to skimp on. You can get them, any pretty much every other piece of furniture, for free on CL or FBMP if you're not picky and don't mind waiting a big for something decent near you.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by zemvpferreira »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

I, uh, might have slept on a matress on top of a rug for a number of years. It was fine and extremely clean. Multiple sexual partners, no complaints, but you have me wondering about the what ifs.

My parents are almost-hoarders and I’m almost-ocd if it matters. Love me an austere room.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by swayvil »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

But it's such a waste of space. I spend only a small part of my day on it. (Roll up futon).

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by kansface »

zemvpferreira wrote: post #15
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

I, uh, might have slept on a matress on top of a rug for a number of years. It was fine and extremely clean. Multiple sexual partners, no complaints, but you have me wondering about the what ifs. My parents are almost-hoarders and I’m almost-ocd if it matters. Love me an austere room.

I’d recommend a Japanese platform bed.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by TacticalCoder »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

> Extra credit: the bottom of your mattress won't be all gross.

That's the one big reason to me actually. I lived for years with a mattress on the floor. It was cool: really was. It wasn't about money: it was just a way to explain that I just didn't give a fuck about the way things were supposed to be. My cheap, used and beaten up Porsche 911 Carrera (another way to say fuck you) in the driveway and a mattress on the floor: that was my Hank Moody way of life (which btw predated the Hank Moody character).

People, upon seeing that, would understand there were exactly zero fucks given about the way society should be.

A mattress on the floor is a statement.

But a bedframe: it costs next to nothing. Heck, you can even build one yourself if your a bit of a DIYer and know what a dowel is. Stick your mattress on a bedframe. Buy a roomba: make sure it can vaccuum clean under the bed.

Believe me: been there, done that. A bedframe is cleaner. It's also more comfy.

Big bonus if that bedframe has got a headroom in alcantara or something: that is just smooth compared to the wall.

My wife since 15 y/o and mother to our 10 y/o kid? We met up when I had that ascetic way of life: three pairs of socks, three undies, an old beaten up sportscar and a mattress on the floor. And, yes, a semi-fancy stereo (not that I knew that Steve Jobs lived like that, I had no idea: I just happened back then, by chance, to stumble on a pair of Pierre-Etienne Leon speakers / aka "P-E Leon" : shittiest website there is for a high-end speakers brand I'd say).

This just made all nostalgic. I kinda wish I could re-live these moments again. But I take it it's just me getting old.

Upgraded the speakers. Upgraded the car. Put the mattress on a bedframe.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Post by kkwteh »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #7

I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

We had one such case at our startup in San Francisco. Several coworkers came together to get him a bed frame as a group birthday gift.
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