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Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Seems to me that the only difference between Anthropic and OpenAI is that Anthropic was for-profit from day one and OpenAI is from day yesterday. I pay for both, and pretty sure they will do everything they can to take as much money from me that they can get away with. This shouldnt be news.

What if your city police force or volunteer firemen switched to for-profit?

I think that is the crux of the matter.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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As somebody new to Claude, can anybody give me tips for how to optimally use Claude as opposed to habits formed with ChatGPT? For example, my main concern is the limiting of messages over a given time period, even for paid accounts. I have often used ChatGPT for very specific questions/answers, but sending a large collection of "drill-down" follow up questions can burn through my Claude messages pretty quickly? Is it…

Projects can make it worse because I think the Claude rate limiting is token based. If I fill up a project to >100k tokens, I get rate limited much faster.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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As somebody new to Claude, can anybody give me tips for how to optimally use Claude as opposed to habits formed with ChatGPT? For example, my main concern is the limiting of messages over a given time period, even for paid accounts. I have often used ChatGPT for very specific questions/answers, but sending a large collection of "drill-down" follow up questions can burn through my Claude messages pretty quickly? Is it…

My tip would be to use openai instead.

There's an arms race. Openai was ahead. Then anthropic was ahead. Now gpt4o and o1 are better again. This may change in a few months.

I'll miss the projects feature though.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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> Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, was once the VP of research at OpenAI, and reportedly split with the firm after a disagreement over OpenAI’s roadmap — namely its growing commercial focus. So he's now the CEO of Anthropic, a company selling AI services? Claude is amazing, and we use it's Teams plan here at the office extensively (having switched from ChatGPT since Claude is vastly better at technical material and adc…

At least Anthropic is honest about their intentions though. That would be enough for me to leave OpenAI. Hey you want to commercialize it sure but don’t hide behind lies.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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> Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, was once the VP of research at OpenAI, and reportedly split with the firm after a disagreement over OpenAI’s roadmap — namely its growing commercial focus. So he's now the CEO of Anthropic, a company selling AI services? Claude is amazing, and we use it's Teams plan here at the office extensively (having switched from ChatGPT since Claude is vastly better at technical material and adc…

Pivoting from "for all mankind" to "all for myself" would make me deeply uncomfortable, too. The change from one position to the other, not either position in any absolute sense, is the concerning part.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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post #11
post #8

Seems to me that the only difference between Anthropic and OpenAI is that Anthropic was for-profit from day one and OpenAI is from day yesterday. I pay for both, and pretty sure they will do everything they can to take as much money from me that they can get away with. This shouldnt be news.

What if your city police force or volunteer firemen switched to for-profit? I think that is the crux of the matter.

The US is unique in how many public services it has. Other countries have private firefighter services; that just means the city has a contract with them. It doesn't mean they burn your house down and charge you for it.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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As somebody new to Claude, can anybody give me tips for how to optimally use Claude as opposed to habits formed with ChatGPT? For example, my main concern is the limiting of messages over a given time period, even for paid accounts. I have often used ChatGPT for very specific questions/answers, but sending a large collection of "drill-down" follow up questions can burn through my Claude messages pretty quickly? Is it…

My tip would be to use openai instead. There's an arms race. Openai was ahead. Then anthropic was ahead. Now gpt4o and o1 are better again. This may change in a few months. I'll miss the projects feature though.

Gpt4o and o1 are absolutely not better at coding than Claude. They're noticeably worse at following complex, detailed prompts (e.g. a detailed prompt for it to create an application), and often forget details during the conversation (e.g. will revert to an old version of some code it already refactored). o1 is better than Claude for Leetcode hard style coding problems, but the majority of coding work isn't about that, it's about correctly implementing a spec. Plus even o1 will still often fill code with "implemention here" comments, in spite of being explicitly asked to provide a full working implementation.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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As much as I dislike OpenAI’s ongoing shenanigans and disdain for their own customers, I tried to sign up for Claude last week.

Turns out that Anthropic’s signup flow has been silently broken for months for Firefox users: https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1bq06yz/phone_ver.... You get the SMS verification code, and you can enter it, but you get a barely visible “Invalid verification code” error message followed near-instantly by a refresh of the page. I reached out to support, but like many others, heard nothing back.

This barely-disguised contempt for what should likely be their most valuable power-user base suggests to me that a lot of the recent departures from OpenAI are being driven by push instead of pull, and I’m not convinced that Anthropic will remain a competent competitor in the LLM arms race long-term.

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