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Re: OpenAI as we knew it is dead

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Hopefully the DOJ and the various AGs involved are going to be proactive here and stop this. If non profits are allowed to become for profit entities it breaks the entire system. Then every startup should start as a non profit, allow everyone to write off all of their investments, operate with no taxes, and once they are big enough switch to a for profit entity.

And claim the copyright abuse is fair use for research purposes.

They were publicly demonstrating the exact same thing now called "copyright abuse" with the Davinci model, nobody seemed to care until ChatGPT came out for free without needing paid API access.

That doesn't make it legally ok, but it does make their initial (though not subsequent) surprise forgivable.

Their own later self, and everyone else copying the same behaviour, not so much.

Re: OpenAI as we knew it is dead

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post #9

Money always wins. There’s a sort of irresistible momentum that happens when enough money pools together, and no person can resist it. You see it with apple’s customer-hostile app store policies that are a result of the money being too good, and now with OpenAI. I wonder how this problem ever gets solved at the level of society. Enough money pooling together always wins out over public interest.

Isn't that basically what antitrust is supposed to solve?

Re: OpenAI as we knew it is dead

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post #9

Money always wins. There’s a sort of irresistible momentum that happens when enough money pools together, and no person can resist it. You see it with apple’s customer-hostile app store policies that are a result of the money being too good, and now with OpenAI. I wonder how this problem ever gets solved at the level of society. Enough money pooling together always wins out over public interest.

Isn't that basically what antitrust is supposed to solve?

And it works when leaders aren’t completely bought and paid for.

Re: OpenAI as we knew it is dead

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post #9

Money always wins. There’s a sort of irresistible momentum that happens when enough money pools together, and no person can resist it. You see it with apple’s customer-hostile app store policies that are a result of the money being too good, and now with OpenAI. I wonder how this problem ever gets solved at the level of society. Enough money pooling together always wins out over public interest.

AI is pretty much the culmination of technocapital, so frankly the idea that a nonprofit without deep government support would be the leading AI company is a little unrealistic in the first place. Especially considering the heavy capital requirements to even make this stuff functional in the first place.

I think you’d need a government organization on the level of Manhattan Project to really compete, but unfortunately there don’t seem to be many Robert Oppenheimers and Vannevar Bushes working in the public sector anymore.

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