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Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Post by tivert »

lobochrome wrote: post #4

Fascinating. How will we live ok back in, say five years, at this very funny period from, 2018ish to 2022ish when our echo chamber made us believe ESG was going to save the world. How far we’ve come. Is it all due to the prospect of finally seeing a feasible road to AGI?!

> Is it all due to the prospect of finally seeing a feasible road to AGI?!

Or just hope. AGI is a capitalist's wet dream: it would completely undercut labor's power or allow it to be replaced completely, and it could also allow the developer to muscle out a large fraction of other capitalists from the economy.

Even though AGI would be terrible for the rest of us, it's got so much upside for VC types they can't help themselves.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Post by lopis »

While this is better than loading up a coal power plant, the way I see it, it's still a tragic situation. Even if AI used purely fossil-free electricity (which it doesn't), it's still putting pressure on our grids and energy production. The green energy AI consumes if the green energy some other less lucrative industry will not consume. Big tech is currently scraping their net neutrality plans left and right...

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Post by rgmerk »

Hmmm. 50 years old and out of action for half a decade. That’s going to require a lot of work to persuade the NRC it’s safe to operate.

Given how difficult it’s proven to build new nuclear around the world, what are the odds of this recommissioning being on time and budget?

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Post by baq »

tivert wrote: post #11
lobochrome wrote: post #4

Fascinating. How will we live ok back in, say five years, at this very funny period from, 2018ish to 2022ish when our echo chamber made us believe ESG was going to save the world. How far we’ve come. Is it all due to the prospect of finally seeing a feasible road to AGI?!

> Is it all due to the prospect of finally seeing a feasible road to AGI?! Or just hope. AGI is a capitalist's wet dream: it would completely undercut labor's power or allow it to be replaced completely, and it could also allow the developer to muscle out a large fraction of other capitalists from the economy. Even though AGI would be terrible for the rest of us, it's got so much upside for VC types they can't help t…

It’s even worse. If you have money and are against deploying AGI once we get there you still want to be the first to achieve it, because it’s the only reasonable chance of stopping others… assuming you can even align it.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Post by fergonco »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #14

More nuclear is a good thing. FAANG nuclear is even better, because they will be be ready and equipped to push back the insane NIMBY crowd(s) and also don't need to be worried about getting reelected.

How are nimby crowds insane? Accidents may happen. And did happen in the past in that same place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Post by rebolek »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #14

More nuclear is a good thing. FAANG nuclear is even better, because they will be be ready and equipped to push back the insane NIMBY crowd(s) and also don't need to be worried about getting reelected.

Yeah, 'move fast and break things' is certainly the best ideology for running nuclear plant.
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