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Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
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Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#12Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
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Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#13Not sure the title has the right framing. It's hard to compete with AMD which is the only tech company to offer both x86 and a solid GPU technology that comes with it. On top of that you have backwards compatibility woes and the uncertainty around Intel being able to deliver on its foundry. All in all, this win would've been a great deal for Intel's foundry in PR, but money wise those were never going to be huge sums…
> both x86 and a solid GPU technology that comes with it
If only Project Denver had kept its original goal
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#14Everything is about GPUs these days.
Be it little GPUs inside the CPU package or be it consumer GPUs or big GPUs in data centers.
Unless Intel can start to get its GPU act together, it won't be leading the industry again in a hurry.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#15Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
Intel has Battlemage [1]. Presumably that would be the basis of the console APU. Their iGPU performance is actually getting good now. [2] [1] https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/embargo-no-p... [2] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/lunar-lake-i...
Probably Celestial, considering a PS6 is still a few years out, and Celestial is due next year on 18A with Panther Lake.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/intel-to-offer-panther...
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#16If we are talking foundry, Intel could still manufacture amd chips in their own fab instead of tsmc. Given that 18A is good...
This would be strange, but it would show Intel will do what it takes.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#17If we are talking foundry, Intel could still manufacture amd chips in their own fab instead of tsmc. Given that 18A is good... This would be strange, but it would show Intel will do what it takes.
They have to do that to stay in fab business. Their design business is gonna be sold out I think, like HP/Agilent.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#18Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
Ditto. AMD also reliably delivered on CPUs for the past 2 iterations of both Xbox and PS. AMD feels like the only choice for consoles at this point.
Well, Nvidia has powered a much more popular console... the Nintendo Switch, and Nvidia looks set to power the Switch 2 when it launches next year. So, AMD is clearly not the only choice.
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#19Intel hasn't made a console CPU/GPU since... the original Xbox?
AMD has done: Gamecube, Wii, Xbox 360 (gpu, not cpu), Xbox one, PS4, PS5 ...
Re: Intel lost the Sony Playstation business to AMD
#20Maybe I'm misinformed, but I could never see Intel getting this contract. AMD has extensive experience with high-performing APUs, something Intel, at least in my memory, does not have. The chips on modern high-end consoles are supposed to compete with GPUs, not with integrated graphics. Does Intel even have any offerings that would indicate they could accomplish this? Intel has ARC, which presumably could be put in a…
Intel has Battlemage [1]. Presumably that would be the basis of the console APU. Their iGPU performance is actually getting good now. [2] [1] https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/embargo-no-p... [2] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/lunar-lake-i...
The "Intel Core Ultra 7 258V" is at least 2-3x slower than the GPU within the PlayStation 5. It is not even close, and that's last gen. Again, the APUs within modern consoles compete with desktop grade GPUs. In the case of the PS5 its roughly comparable to an RTX 2070 or Rx 6700 (better analog).