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Re: The Podcast Index

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I'm building a language learning app based on podcasts and I used "The Podcast Index" first but, as I understand, The Podcast Index is not currently scraping Apple and many of the podcasts in their index are dead. For better or worse Apple podcasts is the "de facto" index of podcasts, so I had to build my own podcast index based on itunes data.

You can see a comparison of the different indexes (indices?) at https://podcastindustryinsights.com/

Re: The Podcast Index

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post #5

4 million podcasts. That's an order of magnitude more than I'd have guessed. A quick search shows other sources estimating 5 million.

Well, I'm guessing I have two podcasts in there, one of which is completely inactive and the other of which I haven't published anything new to for well over a year. There are a lot of podcasts out there that are pretty inactive and some were only intended as being limited series in the first place. So, yeah, if the universe of discoverable podcasts is 4 million it wouldn't surprise me at all if an order of magnitude…

Podcasts should be thought of as limited runs, not like never ending radio programs. That's just the reality, regardless of the original intentions.

I think the move to announced seasons is a good middle ground. It tempers expectations and gives creators a break or stopping point.

Re: The Podcast Index

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post #3

I love podcasts but discoverability is simply awful on Apple Podcasts, not to mention the rampant enshittification. What's better in their list of apps?

For me the best way was always personal recommendations from friends, sometimes also if a host of one show was a guest on another one.

I tried to build a better way to see what my friends are listening to with https://lastcast.fm, but I've since shut down the project.

Re: The Podcast Index

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post #11

I'm building a language learning app based on podcasts and I used "The Podcast Index" first but, as I understand, The Podcast Index is not currently scraping Apple and many of the podcasts in their index are dead. For better or worse Apple podcasts is the "de facto" index of podcasts, so I had to build my own podcast index based on itunes data. You can see a comparison of the different indexes (indices?) at https://p…

Isn’t the entire idea of the podcast index that they aren’t relying on a single platform for their source of truth? Podcasts are decentralized by design so in theory all links to podcasts should be scrape-able in some way (just as Google scrapes websites). One of the sites the podcast index should scrape is Apple, but it should by no means be limited to a single platform.

Re: The Podcast Index

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post #3

I love podcasts but discoverability is simply awful on Apple Podcasts, not to mention the rampant enshittification. What's better in their list of apps?

I mainly listen to audio dramas. I find reddit the best place to get recs either that or I give advertised podcasts in ones I'm listening to a try.

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I'm guessing I have two podcasts in there, one of which is completely inactive and the other of which I haven't published anything new to for well over a year. There are a lot of podcasts out there that are pretty inactive and some were only intended as being limited series in the first place. So, yeah, if the universe of discoverable podcasts is 4 million it wouldn't surprise me at all if an order of magnitude…

Podcasts should be thought of as limited runs, not like never ending radio programs. That's just the reality, regardless of the original intentions. I think the move to announced seasons is a good middle ground. It tempers expectations and gives creators a break or stopping point.

There are definitely podcasts that are of historical interest. I mentioned the big dig one. My former company also did some computer-related podcasts that are sort of evergreen, e.g. related to Soul of a New Machine. There are also ones related to speculation about some current TV show that mostly have a pretty short shelf life.

But agree generally. I think if I were to undertake a new podcast, I'd probably use seasons. Gives a good point to decide, nah, I'm done with this topic. Otherwise, the natural path is to just peter out.

Re: The Podcast Index

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post #3

I love podcasts but discoverability is simply awful on Apple Podcasts, not to mention the rampant enshittification. What's better in their list of apps?

Overcast is popular, but I would say its UI has also become worse over time: https://overcast.fm/ But its less about discovery than tracking your library and playing them back.

Give it some time—Marco just radically re-architected the app and is in the process of iterating the UI rapidly. He just added the ability to swipe in the main card again for example.
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