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Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

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Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

phowat wrote: post #3
lallysingh wrote: post #2

Huh, no discussion nearly an hour after posting. Either a time zone thing or a conspicuous silence. Or nobody cares about Hack anymore?

I don't think this was used much outside of meta anyway.

Out of curiosity, just how compatible is Hack+HHVM with unmodified PHP 5/7/8 code?

Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

#12

Post by teqsun »

lallysingh wrote: post #2

Huh, no discussion nearly an hour after posting. Either a time zone thing or a conspicuous silence. Or nobody cares about Hack anymore?

Not to be terse, but did anyone outside of FB ever care about Hack? Mentally I always just knew "FB built everything in PHP, it got too gunky, they invented Hack to try to solve the issue without needing to rewrite everything"

PHP usually ranks pretty high on many "developer hate" polls, so it's not too shocking to me that Hack never got the hype of React or Golang.

Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

#14

Post by wongarsu »

lallysingh wrote: post #2

Huh, no discussion nearly an hour after posting. Either a time zone thing or a conspicuous silence. Or nobody cares about Hack anymore?

PHP doesn't have a lot of fans on here. Not sure how popular Hack is in general, but if it is used the users don't hang out here

Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

#15

Post by ceejayoz »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #11
phowat wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this was used much outside of meta anyway.

Out of curiosity, just how compatible is Hack+HHVM with unmodified PHP 5/7/8 code?

It's compatible with PHP 5.

They stopped shipping PHP support with PHP 7.

Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

#17

Post by Q6T46nT668w6i3m »

teqsun wrote: post #12
lallysingh wrote: post #2

Huh, no discussion nearly an hour after posting. Either a time zone thing or a conspicuous silence. Or nobody cares about Hack anymore?

Not to be terse, but did anyone outside of FB ever care about Hack? Mentally I always just knew "FB built everything in PHP, it got too gunky, they invented Hack to try to solve the issue without needing to rewrite everything" PHP usually ranks pretty high on many "developer hate" polls, so it's not too shocking to me that Hack never got the hype of React or Golang.

I worked on Hack during my Meta bootcamp and was surprised to learn that many people used and relied on Hack outside of Meta. It didn’t appear to be anywhere near the size and scope of PyTorch and React but the number of users looked relatively large!

Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

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Post by throwaway2016a »

I'm a little surprised HHVM is still around, last time I checked it was barely (if at all) faster than vanilla PHP and PHP now has a lot of the comparible features like progressive type safety and concurrency (to an extent).

There are even competing PHP compilers/interpreters/runtimes now like there has been for a while with other languages.

I'm guessing there is some benefit to running HHVM on the type of large scale deployments Facebook has or there wouldn't be a need to keep it around.

Re: Meta's Hack (HHVM) language appears to be no longer maintained

#20

Post by nkcmr »

chomp wrote: post #10

Are we really at the point where last commit less than two months ago means something is unmaintained?

It is relative. If a project only pushes a few commits a year, 2 months of quiet is nothing. Given this project going to zero commits from 100s of commits a week is noteworthy.
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