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The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by zooq_ai »

mgaunard wrote: post #3

I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.

It's perfectly fine to revere people and get inspired. Jeff Dean, Dennis Ritchie, Isaac Newton, Claude Shannon, Stephen Wolfram and others are brilliant thinkers who have impacted the world.

In fact, the higher the IQ, the better you are able to discern true intellect vs loud mouths.

I for one revere Jeff Dean and I'm proud of it. It doesn't affect my life negatively in any way. In fact betting on people that I revere (Jobs, Musk, Zuck, Bezos, Buffett) have profited me immensely

Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by zooq_ai »

bbor wrote: post #9
subsubzero wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah this is a classic "puff piece" not really about the engineers themselves but a subtle advert for google for being a place where geniuses work. They (and nytimes, wired etc) do the same thing with Geofrey Hinton and a few other key engineers. Matter of fact it happens at other companies as well and unsure if its something the company pays for or something else.

And it’s a happy coincidence that it comes right at the start of their latest and largest antitrust trial! Some contractor in charge of monitoring their mentions is pumping their fist rn at this repost, lol

The article was returning in 2018. The only bias here is from HNers who are massively anti-Google

Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by akira2501 »

mgaunard wrote: post #3

I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.

It's so they can imagine themselves in that same position one day being the beneficiary of the same uncritical reverence.

If you come to revere a pair of programmers then you've almost certainly missed the actual story of the true achievements or are blinding yourself to the fact that their achievement was only necessary due to the complete engineering failures of the company they were now attached to.

Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by akira2501 »

zooq_ai wrote: post #12
bbor wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it’s a happy coincidence that it comes right at the start of their latest and largest antitrust trial! Some contractor in charge of monitoring their mentions is pumping their fist rn at this repost, lol

The article was returning in 2018. The only bias here is from HNers who are massively anti-Google

The first anti trust suit started it's investigation about then.

It's not as if the court trial starts the very day the government notices the issue.

Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by pimlottc »

mgaunard wrote: post #3

I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.

If you want to do great things yourself, then it's natural to look for people who have similar things and figure out how to emulate them.

Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by mgaunard »

zooq_ai wrote: post #11
mgaunard wrote: post #3

I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.

It's perfectly fine to revere people and get inspired. Jeff Dean, Dennis Ritchie, Isaac Newton, Claude Shannon, Stephen Wolfram and others are brilliant thinkers who have impacted the world. In fact, the higher the IQ, the better you are able to discern true intellect vs loud mouths. I for one revere Jeff Dean and I'm proud of it. It doesn't affect my life negatively in any way. In fact betting on people that I rever…

Most achievements are the product of multiple factors meeting at a specific point in time.

In many of the scenarios you hint at, new problems or opportunities arose, and those people were simply well-positioned by chance and circumstance to tackle them.

The problem should take center stage, not the men.

Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by mgaunard »

incognito124 wrote: post #15
mgaunard wrote: post #3

I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.

I fail to see why the person should not be revered

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Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)

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Post by mgaunard »

pimlottc wrote: post #16
mgaunard wrote: post #3

I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.

If you want to do great things yourself, then it's natural to look for people who have similar things and figure out how to emulate them.

How do you plan to emulate the luck of being in the right place at the right moment?
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