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Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

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Post by sonofhans »

Partially off-topic, but I’ve seen complaints in the thread about microwaves in general. Here’s the trick — buy a commercial microwave. They’re reliable, powerful, and have only a few features. They come in all sizes.

You’ll put less duty on one in a month than a commercial kitchen does in one day, so it will last forever. Time is money in a kitchen so they’re powerful and fast. They tend to have very simple, direct controls, rather than a myriad of popcorn/pizza/whatever buttons. Commercial microwaves often have an integrated diffuser, so they don’t need the stupid rotating glass plate in the bottom.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

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Post by sonofhans »

r00fus wrote: post #10

I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…

Great minds think alike. That is exactly the microwave I have, and for the same reasons. Such a brilliant tool.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

#13

Post by lozenge »

arghandugh wrote: post #6

We recently got rid of a four year old microwave where the magnetron turned on spontaneously and silently when the door was closed, runaway heating the box. Control panel, lights, turntable, fan, everything is idle. Manufacturer didn't consider this an interesting defect and refused to swap out-of-warranty. The lack of give-a-shit in appliances is becoming apparent.

The CPSC would be interested.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

sonofhans wrote: post #11

Partially off-topic, but I’ve seen complaints in the thread about microwaves in general. Here’s the trick — buy a commercial microwave. They’re reliable, powerful, and have only a few features. They come in all sizes. You’ll put less duty on one in a month than a commercial kitchen does in one day, so it will last forever. Time is money in a kitchen so they’re powerful and fast. They tend to have very simple, direct…

Can confirm. We got a commercial-grade Panasonic microwave I believe, that survived near daily use for almost 9 years before the magnetron finally gave out. We replaced it with an identical model, and it must be a pretty good one since a cursory comparison inside between the old and new revealed virtually no changes since our old one was made. If it ain't broke...

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

#15

Post by goda90 »

r00fus wrote: post #10

I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…

The thing is, the superior way to reheat something would usually be a lower power level. But not the standard "turn on - turn off" cycle that most microwaves do. Actual lower intensity microwaves. You need an inverter for that. The food would heat more evenly, which is especially useful for things like butter that are prone to splattering.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

#16

Post by apricot »

goda90 wrote: post #15
r00fus wrote: post #10

I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…

The thing is, the superior way to reheat something would usually be a lower power level. But not the standard "turn on - turn off" cycle that most microwaves do. Actual lower intensity microwaves. You need an inverter for that. The food would heat more evenly, which is especially useful for things like butter that are prone to splattering.

The commercial microwaves we have at work have both a large dial to set the time, and four large buttons under it for 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% power. No other controls. They are great.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

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Post by extraduder_ire »

goda90 wrote: post #15
r00fus wrote: post #10

I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…

The thing is, the superior way to reheat something would usually be a lower power level. But not the standard "turn on - turn off" cycle that most microwaves do. Actual lower intensity microwaves. You need an inverter for that. The food would heat more evenly, which is especially useful for things like butter that are prone to splattering.

I bought a microwave a couple of months ago, and found it impossible to determine which if any of the cheaper ones were inverter microwaves, or if they just used duty cycle power control. I assume that distinction is only made with higher-end microwaves.

In the end I went with the model that looked to have the simplest design and least things to break.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

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Post by barbegal »

goda90 wrote: post #15
r00fus wrote: post #10

I migrated our house to a "commercial" variant of the microwave oven [1] as I was tired of all the over-engineering and annoying patterns in modern microwaves. This microwave has exactly UI element other than the door - a digital dial that goes from 10s-6m. No start/cancel, no power level, no defrost, no program mode. I don't "cook" using the oven, only reheat or very rarely heat/boil small quantities of water. The m…

The thing is, the superior way to reheat something would usually be a lower power level. But not the standard "turn on - turn off" cycle that most microwaves do. Actual lower intensity microwaves. You need an inverter for that. The food would heat more evenly, which is especially useful for things like butter that are prone to splattering.

Pulse width modulation works just as well if the pulse width is short compared to the overall cooking time. And not having an inverter makes it more efficient. Unfortunately lots of cheap microwaves have a pulse width which is more than 10 seconds, presumably to help lifetime reliability, but means that for cooking times less than a couple of minutes it doesn't work well.

Re: Microwave spontaneously turned on by its LED display

#20

Post by Prickle »

arghandugh wrote: post #6

We recently got rid of a four year old microwave where the magnetron turned on spontaneously and silently when the door was closed, runaway heating the box. Control panel, lights, turntable, fan, everything is idle. Manufacturer didn't consider this an interesting defect and refused to swap out-of-warranty. The lack of give-a-shit in appliances is becoming apparent.

A defect like that would make it illegal to sell in my country. One big splash on a major network and they will probably go scrambling.

Have you contacted anyone other than the manufacturer?

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