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Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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I don't see exactly how this is a violation of privacy, since the same friends that see your advertisements can go to your About page and get that same information from your list of likes.

The violation of privacy is Facebook reserving the right to use your photo on ads served on sites other than Facebook. Inside of Facebook, it's just creepy.

Seeing as you're on HN, I'm sure you realize that those facebook widgets that show up on CNN.com are in fact served from facebook owned properties. The domain in the address bar means literally nothing here. The outsize vs inside facebook distinction is meaningless.

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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post #4

I don't see exactly how this is a violation of privacy, since the same friends that see your advertisements can go to your About page and get that same information from your list of likes.

There is no privacy violation here. This is simply people looking for reasons to hate facebook grasping at straws. They're using your like to remind your friends that you like this particular company who is doing an advertisement. Seems like a tasteful bit of social proof if you ask me. I'm honestly surprised facebook lost this case. They need a fresh set of lawyers.

They didn't really lose. Facebook just tossed them some shakedown money to go away.

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no privacy violation here. This is simply people looking for reasons to hate facebook grasping at straws. They're using your like to remind your friends that you like this particular company who is doing an advertisement. Seems like a tasteful bit of social proof if you ask me. I'm honestly surprised facebook lost this case. They need a fresh set of lawyers.

They didn't really lose. Facebook just tossed them some shakedown money to go away.

Yeah, rereading the article I realized it was the lawyers themselves that brought this suit against facebook. Crap like this shouldn't be allowed. It was a shakedown, plain and simple. If facebook isn't willing to go to bat for their business practices, this is just going to continue.

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The violation of privacy is Facebook reserving the right to use your photo on ads served on sites other than Facebook. Inside of Facebook, it's just creepy.

Seeing as you're on HN, I'm sure you realize that those facebook widgets that show up on CNN.com are in fact served from facebook owned properties. The domain in the address bar means literally nothing here. The outsize vs inside facebook distinction is meaningless.

The context is far from meaningless. While you understand that 'technically' it's the same source, your friends and family using Facebook will have certain expectations when 'liking' something. These expectations will probably be that they like something in the social network context of Facebook (visible to people they know) and not in the context of the web at large (viewable to teachers, bosses, and random strangers).

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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post #4

I don't see exactly how this is a violation of privacy, since the same friends that see your advertisements can go to your About page and get that same information from your list of likes.

Just a guess... Maybe because you have an option to turn that off and this you could not.

I hope that's not true -- if you block a friend from a certain part of your profile, Facebook better make sure that the friend can't see that part of your profile in ads targetting them.

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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This is obviously very troubling for Facebook, considering that Sponsored Stories appear to be their main effort to monetize mobile. It's especially troubling because this is yet another breach of privacy on their part. People liking pages or apps don't expect to be spokespeople for these companies, so showing my name next to an advertisement is disingenuous. It's made even worse that this is opt-out, and my name is…

It's not troubling at all, this setting will be buried in the bowels of the privacy page. 1% of users will actually opt-out.

"There is going to be hundreds of millions of people who will never even know that they're recommending products to people, and that's bad."

Why? Exactly what is the moral outrage that when a person 'likes' Starbucks that that information is displayed to their friends? What did they think was going to happen?

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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post #16

This is obviously very troubling for Facebook, considering that Sponsored Stories appear to be their main effort to monetize mobile. It's especially troubling because this is yet another breach of privacy on their part. People liking pages or apps don't expect to be spokespeople for these companies, so showing my name next to an advertisement is disingenuous. It's made even worse that this is opt-out, and my name is…

It's not troubling at all, this setting will be buried in the bowels of the privacy page. 1% of users will actually opt-out. "There is going to be hundreds of millions of people who will never even know that they're recommending products to people, and that's bad." Why? Exactly what is the moral outrage that when a person 'likes' Starbucks that that information is displayed to their friends? What did they think was g…

Since they are not told, in any reasonably accessible way, what is going to happen when they click "like", they have grounds to complain about anything that does.

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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This might turn out to be a good way to get free advertising on FaceBook: 1) Register FB account [name]_[company name], with your company's logo, product feature or offer as your profile pic. You'll probably need a bunch of friends for this to work, real or fake. 2) Like every other company in existence, or at least the ones spending money on these sponsored ads. 3) Have your free ads displayed all over FB, sponsored…

3a) to your fake friends

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing as you're on HN, I'm sure you realize that those facebook widgets that show up on CNN.com are in fact served from facebook owned properties. The domain in the address bar means literally nothing here. The outsize vs inside facebook distinction is meaningless.

The context is far from meaningless. While you understand that 'technically' it's the same source, your friends and family using Facebook will have certain expectations when 'liking' something. These expectations will probably be that they like something in the social network context of Facebook (visible to people they know) and not in the context of the web at large (viewable to teachers, bosses, and random stranger…

>and not in the context of the web at large (viewable to teachers, bosses, and random strangers).

But its not. Its viewable to your friends only (who may be browsing a third party site). This information is not made public in any meaningful sense of the word public. Only those who were able to see your like on facebook will ever see it in the context of an advertisement. Hence, no privacy violation.

Re: Privacy Lawyers Sell Out Facebook Users for $10 Million

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This might turn out to be a good way to get free advertising on FaceBook: 1) Register FB account [name]_[company name], with your company's logo, product feature or offer as your profile pic. You'll probably need a bunch of friends for this to work, real or fake. 2) Like every other company in existence, or at least the ones spending money on these sponsored ads. 3) Have your free ads displayed all over FB, sponsored…

3a) to your fake friends

Well crap, that pretty much ruins my dreams. Back to the drawing board...

New tactic:

1) Be a social butterfly and get as many FB friends as possible.

2) Sell profile pic and public bio placement to a company wanting cheap advertising.

3) Like every company on FB.

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