Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

Post by criddell » Sat, Sep 07, 2024, 10:56 AM UTC

heraldgeezer wrote: post #10

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #5

After reading the article, and specially the remarks about this engine being copy-pasted from the Xbox DRM engine , does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security? And not totally about MS finally having enforceable DRM on PCs? Oh and by the way Pluton is now on the latest batch of Intel laptop chips. And has been on AMDs for a while. How soon until Windows requires…

>does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security? I never did. The worst part is explaining it to people drinking the MS coolaid. I'm an MS admin so people at work love Win11, Intune etc all that max lockdown shit. To me that's not what Windows is about, for me Windows is excellent because of the admin tools and backwards compatibility. But hey that's just me. Proton…

Post by heraldgeezer » Sat, Sep 07, 2024, 11:03 AM UTC

criddell wrote: post #12

heraldgeezer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security? I never did. The worst part is explaining it to people drinking the MS coolaid. I'm an MS admin so people at work love Win11, Intune etc all that max lockdown shit. To me that's not what Windows is about, for me Windows is excellent because of the admin tools and backwards compatibility. But hey that's just me. Proton…

Another TPM thing? What problem do you have with the TPM?

Post by dist-epoch » Sat, Sep 07, 2024, 11:04 AM UTC

croes wrote: post #13

dist-epoch wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been saying that for more than 10 years now, since the TPM was introduced. Yet you can still install Linux on PCs sold with Windows, you can still install third party software on Windows not from a Store, you can still watch pirated movies downloaded from torrents. You can even run an unregistered/unpaid version of Windows if you don't mind that it will not let you change the desktop background image.

And Windows PCs are still not safe. So either way it fails it's purpose

Post by nulld3v » Sat, Sep 07, 2024, 11:18 AM UTC

dist-epoch wrote: post #11

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #5

After reading the article, and specially the remarks about this engine being copy-pasted from the Xbox DRM engine , does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security? And not totally about MS finally having enforceable DRM on PCs? Oh and by the way Pluton is now on the latest batch of Intel laptop chips. And has been on AMDs for a while. How soon until Windows requires…

People have been saying that for more than 10 years now, since the TPM was introduced. Yet you can still install Linux on PCs sold with Windows, you can still install third party software on Windows not from a Store, you can still watch pirated movies downloaded from torrents. You can even run an unregistered/unpaid version of Windows if you don't mind that it will not let you change the desktop background image.

Post by dist-epoch » Sat, Sep 07, 2024, 11:22 AM UTC

doubled112 wrote: post #19

dist-epoch wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Windows PCs have Secure Boot enabled the many have the drives encrypted with Bitlocker.

What does that do for me to stop malware? Bitlocker is only protecting an offline system Also consider that some keys for Secure Boot have been compromised.