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I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by jeffreportmill1 »

I divested too, last May. I was really hoping there would be a "Fire Elon" movement to save the company and all the heroes that made it such a success. Nobody else in the world could get away with keeping their job while basically:

- Not showing up for work - Working several other jobs simultaneously - Rigging their pay through scandalous board manipulation (embezzlement) - Alienating the core set of customers - Threatening to move future innovations to competing companies

I love my two cars, and I'm sad for state of the company. They should fire Elon, then file suit to take back what he stole.

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by 7e »

dkobia wrote: post #10

I too divested. One concern I think about constantly these days is that the Tesla we supposedly own is vulnerable to the whims of the CEO. I worry that software updates pushed to my car to satisfy a man (who has absolute control) might not be responsibly thought out and could pose real risks to me and my family. While this might be an overblown concern, it is a real one. He believes he is responsible to no one but hi…

Never own an automobile made by someone who is mentally ill, or on drugs. Or both.

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by snapplebobapple »

7e wrote: post #12
dkobia wrote: post #10

I too divested. One concern I think about constantly these days is that the Tesla we supposedly own is vulnerable to the whims of the CEO. I worry that software updates pushed to my car to satisfy a man (who has absolute control) might not be responsibly thought out and could pose real risks to me and my family. While this might be an overblown concern, it is a real one. He believes he is responsible to no one but hi…

Never own an automobile made by someone who is mentally ill, or on drugs. Or both.

Meh, lots of great people in history were drug addicts. John hopkins was a raging cocaine fiend for example. Also this constantly writing people off as mentally ill who hold opinions you dont like is getting pretty tiring (especially when they are accomplishing way more than you probably are). You are just the straw that broke the camel's back on this issue. There isn't anything special about your comment to cause my comment other than being the latest in a long, exhausting and dissapointing line.

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by tim333 »

alephnerd wrote: post #7

Imo, it's going to get bad for Tesla in the next 5-7 years - Tesla doesn't own the underlying battery IP by leveraging Panasonic who also sells to domestic and international competitors, will lose charging as a differentiating factor now that the charging team was canned and Cheveron and Shell Ventures are entering the fray, and doesn't have a pipeline of heavy trucks just when Daimler entered the fray. Self driving…

Also some of the Chinese competition is getting crazy good like this thing - a Xpeng similar to a model 3 for $17k in China https://youtu.be/ci5b3GgK7OA

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by mingus88 »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #14
7e wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never own an automobile made by someone who is mentally ill, or on drugs. Or both.

Meh, lots of great people in history were drug addicts. John hopkins was a raging cocaine fiend for example. Also this constantly writing people off as mentally ill who hold opinions you dont like is getting pretty tiring (especially when they are accomplishing way more than you probably are). You are just the straw that broke the camel's back on this issue. There isn't anything special about your comment to cause my…

let’s be real. Musk is objectively not ok. This isn’t even about whether I agree with him or not. His behavior is concerning and even his fans have peeled away as he spiraled into an obvious social media addiction and childish banter unbecoming of a CEO.

It has always been OK to vote with your wallet. Sadly, we can’t “write off” Elon Musk because he simply won’t go away. The best we can do is take our money elsewhere and invest in more stable and trustworthy leaders

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by snapplebobapple »

mingus88 wrote: post #16
snapplebobapple wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, lots of great people in history were drug addicts. John hopkins was a raging cocaine fiend for example. Also this constantly writing people off as mentally ill who hold opinions you dont like is getting pretty tiring (especially when they are accomplishing way more than you probably are). You are just the straw that broke the camel's back on this issue. There isn't anything special about your comment to cause my…

let’s be real. Musk is objectively not ok. This isn’t even about whether I agree with him or not. His behavior is concerning and even his fans have peeled away as he spiraled into an obvious social media addiction and childish banter unbecoming of a CEO. It has always been OK to vote with your wallet. Sadly, we can’t “write off” Elon Musk because he simply won’t go away. The best we can do is take our money elsewhere…

So your big complaint about the guy who significantly contributed to online payments existing, created the electric car market (and has the most advanced electric car to date that is actually profitable per unit and dragging the rest of the car industry into the 21st century), cut space launch costs to single digit percent of previous costs (and is trying to do that one more time with starship) is that you don't like the amount of things or how he says things on the internet? You aren't really convincing me anything I said was incorrect here. You are indeed free to vote with your wallet, at least in business areas he hasn't dominated so completely as to be the only option (i.e. things other than going to orbit for now).

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by YakBizzarro »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #17
mingus88 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

let’s be real. Musk is objectively not ok. This isn’t even about whether I agree with him or not. His behavior is concerning and even his fans have peeled away as he spiraled into an obvious social media addiction and childish banter unbecoming of a CEO. It has always been OK to vote with your wallet. Sadly, we can’t “write off” Elon Musk because he simply won’t go away. The best we can do is take our money elsewhere…

So your big complaint about the guy who significantly contributed to online payments existing, created the electric car market (and has the most advanced electric car to date that is actually profitable per unit and dragging the rest of the car industry into the 21st century), cut space launch costs to single digit percent of previous costs (and is trying to do that one more time with starship) is that you don't like…

Not the OP, but his past (very significant!) achievements doesn't excuse him for present or future behaviour.

Re: I sold all my Tesla shares (TSLA), here's why

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Post by snapplebobapple »

YakBizzarro wrote: post #18
snapplebobapple wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your big complaint about the guy who significantly contributed to online payments existing, created the electric car market (and has the most advanced electric car to date that is actually profitable per unit and dragging the rest of the car industry into the 21st century), cut space launch costs to single digit percent of previous costs (and is trying to do that one more time with starship) is that you don't like…

Not the OP, but his past (very significant!) achievements doesn't excuse him for present or future behaviour.

But what specific behaviour? I went and looked at his last couple days of X posts before posting my second comment and I see a lot of things posted. I see lots of blunt language and opinions that "lefties" would not like but are not mental illness. They were said in a blunt format that hints at some autistic/ADHD traits, but almost certainly not enough for anywhere near an actual diagnosis. So tieing this all back around, saying things you don't like and/or in a way you don't like about issues you feel strongly on does not a mental illness make and I'm extremely tired of this trend to claim that. It's the kinder (so far), gentler (so far) version of othering so that one does not need to think of someone as a human being as one does horrible things to them that is pretty common throughout human history.
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