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Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Excuse my ignorance, but what's a bus monitor?

You ought to be able to google it, but it's a person assigned to assist the bus driver - mainly with keeping order among students - so that the driver can concentrate on driving. Reasonably common on American schoolbuses, depending on the district.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Excuse my ignorance, but what's a bus monitor?

Generally in the US any time there's a bus full of kids, there's an authority figure that's not a teacher in charge of discipline. Sometimes it's the driver, sometimes a separate monitor.

At least when I was in grade school 15-20 years ago those people were generally not well respected by students, as they couldn't mete out real consequences for misbehavior.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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post #11

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a bus monitor?

You ought to be able to google it, but it's a person assigned to assist the bus driver - mainly with keeping order among students - so that the driver can concentrate on driving. Reasonably common on American schoolbuses, depending on the district.

"You ought to be able to google it", I know, but I figured there might be something specific to this case, so I thought I'd ask.

"but it's a person assigned to assist the bus driver" Should she maybe not have been doing a better job of keeping the kids in line? Does she not have the power to stand up, tell them to shut up and pull the bus over? I'm not excusing their behaviour in the slightest, it just seems that she wasn't really performing the task she was hired to do.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it interesting that this is what you took out of the story. I'm not suggesting it's wrong. My immediate reaction was: 1) These kids are evil. 2) Are they spoiled rich kids? 3) How do I reduce the odds of my kid behaving like that in 10 years. btw - I'd like to hope the kid who video-taped it knew exactly what he /she was doing. Maybe a silver lining in an otherwise depressing bus ride (that and the 100k).

The kids are probably in even greater need of compassion than the lady they were harassing is, because they probably learned this attitude at the core of this behavior from their parents.

Mmmmm..... as someone who works for a huge school district with hundreds of schools with students running the gamut from poorest of the poor to richest of the rich, I can tell you they didn't LEARN this behavior from their parents. Rather, they have never been taught to NOT behave like that. Even those with decent parents will sometimes act like horrid little turds. The natural state of the 12-13 year old Middle School Child is that of a vicious, immoral monster. Most will eventually mature into normal, empathetic humans, but at that age, they're ALL terrible.

I neither feel compassion nor hate for them. I detest them for their behavior, and think what they need is some sort of long, unpleasant punishment (e.g. grounded for 4 weeks, during which they clean out the Augean stable) but this is not worthy of any permanent judgement.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You ought to be able to google it, but it's a person assigned to assist the bus driver - mainly with keeping order among students - so that the driver can concentrate on driving. Reasonably common on American schoolbuses, depending on the district.

"You ought to be able to google it", I know, but I figured there might be something specific to this case, so I thought I'd ask. "but it's a person assigned to assist the bus driver" Should she maybe not have been doing a better job of keeping the kids in line? Does she not have the power to stand up, tell them to shut up and pull the bus over? I'm not excusing their behaviour in the slightest, it just seems that she…

It wouldn't surprise me if she had the responsibility for keeping order but not the authority or support (from administration and parents) to do so.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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This video was clearly taken by some of the kids involved. I'll bet they really regret posting it on the internet now. I guess they're young, but I'm often shocked with how little people think about the negative consequences to allowing a video you post to become publicly available on youtube.

I find it interesting that this is what you took out of the story. I'm not suggesting it's wrong. My immediate reaction was: 1) These kids are evil. 2) Are they spoiled rich kids? 3) How do I reduce the odds of my kid behaving like that in 10 years. btw - I'd like to hope the kid who video-taped it knew exactly what he /she was doing. Maybe a silver lining in an otherwise depressing bus ride (that and the 100k).

1) These kids aren't evil and certainly aren't beyond redemption. They do need to be disciplined (i.e. they need to see there are bad consequences for their inappropriate actions).

2) I can't understand why the wealth of the parents is a concern. I don't think this behavior is correlated with wealth.

3) Be a parent and not a friend to your children. Discipline them when they mess up (and they will mess up in big and small ways). Don't feel bad about it, feel good that you are reigning them in before they show up on YouTube.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it interesting that this is what you took out of the story. I'm not suggesting it's wrong. My immediate reaction was: 1) These kids are evil. 2) Are they spoiled rich kids? 3) How do I reduce the odds of my kid behaving like that in 10 years. btw - I'd like to hope the kid who video-taped it knew exactly what he /she was doing. Maybe a silver lining in an otherwise depressing bus ride (that and the 100k).

1) These kids aren't evil and certainly aren't beyond redemption. They do need to be disciplined (i.e. they need to see there are bad consequences for their inappropriate actions). 2) I can't understand why the wealth of the parents is a concern. I don't think this behavior is correlated with wealth. 3) Be a parent and not a friend to your children. Discipline them when they mess up (and they will mess up in big and…

To steal a quote from Forest Gump: "Evil is as evil does".

I don't believe evil is an immutable property of an object; these kids were evil by virtue of their actions. I also believe that, yes, children can be evil. That they don't know any better is a testament to the lousy job their guardians have done in raising them.

Re: Internet raises $150K for bullied bus monitor in one day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) These kids aren't evil and certainly aren't beyond redemption. They do need to be disciplined (i.e. they need to see there are bad consequences for their inappropriate actions). 2) I can't understand why the wealth of the parents is a concern. I don't think this behavior is correlated with wealth. 3) Be a parent and not a friend to your children. Discipline them when they mess up (and they will mess up in big and…

To steal a quote from Forest Gump: "Evil is as evil does". I don't believe evil is an immutable property of an object; these kids were evil by virtue of their actions. I also believe that, yes, children can be evil. That they don't know any better is a testament to the lousy job their guardians have done in raising them.

OK, but that isn't what you wrote. It is one thing to say their actions "are" evil. Quite another to say the kids "are" evil.
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