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IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by OldGuyInTheClub »

cvoss wrote: post #3

> For more than 40 years, IEEE has been a great place to build my personal brand and to create a valuable professional network. I know it can do the same for the next generation of engineers. If they have to make this case, it suggests some combination of 1) the organization doesn't actually provide these opportunities to most people, or 2) people don't actually care about this anyway. For me, this language is busine…

> For more than 40 years, IEEE has been a great place to build my personal brand

When I hear the phrase "personal brand," I normally throw up. Today was a normal day.

Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by eykanal »

cvoss wrote: post #3

> For more than 40 years, IEEE has been a great place to build my personal brand and to create a valuable professional network. I know it can do the same for the next generation of engineers. If they have to make this case, it suggests some combination of 1) the organization doesn't actually provide these opportunities to most people, or 2) people don't actually care about this anyway. For me, this language is busine…

I stayed past that for a bit but eventually cancelled as well, even though work offered to pay for membership. Same as above, once the conference discount wasn't necessary I gained absolutely nothing from the membership.

Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by reliabilityguy »

a_thro_away wrote: post #7
cvoss wrote: post #3

> For more than 40 years, IEEE has been a great place to build my personal brand and to create a valuable professional network. I know it can do the same for the next generation of engineers. If they have to make this case, it suggests some combination of 1) the organization doesn't actually provide these opportunities to most people, or 2) people don't actually care about this anyway. For me, this language is busine…

I'm truly interested in your thoughts... where would you discover truly hard problems? What do you feel would make you qualified to work on them, over, say someone else? enough to prove it to someone that could authorize such a salary and expenditure of time? Unless you were self-funded, of course. I've always wondered where and how would you discover what the edge of the knowledge and science actually is, and stay a…

You read papers and learn where the edge of the science is.

Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by ubj »

I have mixed feelings about this. I joined IEEE as a student for purposes of publications and getting discounts on conference rates. I have continued my membership mainly because it's common among my professional peers. There are some benefits.

However, I have received more spam and unwanted mail (both electronic and physical) from IEEE than any other organization I've been a part of. I find it ironic that I am essentially paying to be marketed to.

All-in-all I'm at about a 50% satisfaction rate with IEEE. The benefits are good enough to prevent me from leaving, but there are enough drawbacks that I wouldn't miss it at all if I did.

Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by ubj »

a_thro_away wrote: post #7
cvoss wrote: post #3

> For more than 40 years, IEEE has been a great place to build my personal brand and to create a valuable professional network. I know it can do the same for the next generation of engineers. If they have to make this case, it suggests some combination of 1) the organization doesn't actually provide these opportunities to most people, or 2) people don't actually care about this anyway. For me, this language is busine…

I'm truly interested in your thoughts... where would you discover truly hard problems? What do you feel would make you qualified to work on them, over, say someone else? enough to prove it to someone that could authorize such a salary and expenditure of time? Unless you were self-funded, of course. I've always wondered where and how would you discover what the edge of the knowledge and science actually is, and stay a…

In academia this is typically accomplished through staying up-to-date with top tier journals and conferences. I would say this is one of the benefits of IEEE--they have quite a few high-quality venues. However, there are also plenty of top-tier venues that are not associated with IEEE.

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Post by reliabilityguy »

ubj wrote: post #15

I have mixed feelings about this. I joined IEEE as a student for purposes of publications and getting discounts on conference rates. I have continued my membership mainly because it's common among my professional peers. There are some benefits. However, I have received more spam and unwanted mail (both electronic and physical) from IEEE than any other organization I've been a part of. I find it ironic that I am essen…

What kind of benefits do you find valuable?

Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by Onavo »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #17
ubj wrote: post #15

I have mixed feelings about this. I joined IEEE as a student for purposes of publications and getting discounts on conference rates. I have continued my membership mainly because it's common among my professional peers. There are some benefits. However, I have received more spam and unwanted mail (both electronic and physical) from IEEE than any other organization I've been a part of. I find it ironic that I am essen…

What kind of benefits do you find valuable?

They occasionally have good insurance offerings, occasionally.

Re: IEEE President's Note: Why Students Should Stay with IEEE

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Post by aborsy »

You have to work hard and come up with new ideas better than anyone else in the world, and demonstrate that. Then IEEE asks A review the work of B and B review the work of A for free. If the work is good, IEEE will ask you to transfer your rights to your intellectual property to IEEE, and sometimes pay on top of that too. Of course, you have to pay exorbitant fees to present it. Lastly, you can’t download your own paper from IEEE and must pay IEEE through a subscription or per article. So, IEEE takes your work and sells it back to you. Meanwhile, the access is not open in 2024, and there is a lot of unpaid volunteer activity, typically by local students and academics.

Why? We give you a professional home!

The cost of the online dissemination is minimal, and the events and societies are run mostly by the communities.

Academia always seemed to be a fraud in some ways.

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