Instead of reflecting ambient light, why not measure it and then emit the same amount? It should be indistinguishable (as long as you reconstruct the RGB colors properly), so you can use a regular OLED display.
E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space
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#12Instead of reflecting ambient light, why not measure it and then emit the same amount? It should be indistinguishable (as long as you reconstruct the RGB colors properly), so you can use a regular OLED display.
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#13Overlooking complaints of lack of backlighting, the Panic Playdate's screen IMHO is its stand out feature. It's a "Sharp Memory LCD" which has the appearance of e-ink and shares it's ability to continue to display an image when unpowered, but has the active refresh rate of a more standard LCD. It's frankly stunning to see in real life, and it's hard to describe how crisp it looks. Videos do not do it justice. It's tr…
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#14Any first-hand experiences with the Nxtpaper devices? There's a lot of press coverage of the release official material, especially on the 14 inch model, but few actual reviews. Availability or even infos on availability is an issue, at least in Europe as well.
I was torn between the HannsNote2 and Nxtpaper 11 but the battery life for the HannsNote2 is apparently less than 3 hours which I think is not going to cut it for a device which is meant to take me away from my phone
I ordered the nxtpaper from TechInn - I think they ship global
Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space
#15Overlooking complaints of lack of backlighting, the Panic Playdate's screen IMHO is its stand out feature. It's a "Sharp Memory LCD" which has the appearance of e-ink and shares it's ability to continue to display an image when unpowered, but has the active refresh rate of a more standard LCD. It's frankly stunning to see in real life, and it's hard to describe how crisp it looks. Videos do not do it justice. It's tr…
EInk is truly 0 energy to hold an image.... but each refresh uses a lot of energy. IIRC, the breakeven vs Sharps memory LCD was like 15-minute refreshes.
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Many battery packs have internal leakage in the ~50 microwatts region just a magnitude below to the power needed for Memory LCD.
So Sharp Memory LCD is close to the point where we stop caring about power consumption at all. But not QUITE zero or otherwise ignored. Still very impressive how low they got.
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#16I'd love a laptop that I can use outside. Even my current macbook pro isn't that good outside. It kind of works but it's not that comfortable on the eyes. And that's supposed to be a screen that is suitable for this.
My kindle on the other hand I can use sitting in the sun wearing sun glasses. Not a problem. Not that I do that a lot, I stick to the shadows. But we've had some nice warm temperatures here in the last few weeks and it sucks having to sit indoors to be able to do work. I'd much rather be in some nice garden or park.
I'd probably buy anything with a decent amount of hardware power and a good screen like this. I'm OK installing linux on it. Not a problem. I can deal with external batteries and extension cords if needed. But I need my laptop to be fast and have decent keyboards and touch pads.
But it seems all the companies in this space fall in the trap of trying to be Apple and then failing miserably on both the hardware and software front. Slow/outdated CPUs, crippled by anemic amounts of memory, paired with somebody's take on how to do Android, etc. When the screen is just about the only thing about a device that isn't shit, it's still a shit product overall.
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#17It would be nice to see somebody do a device that isn't crippled in terms of hardware and software. In my experience, most hardware companies aren't very good at software and vice versa. Apple seems a rare exception to this rule. I'd love a laptop that I can use outside. Even my current macbook pro isn't that good outside. It kind of works but it's not that comfortable on the eyes. And that's supposed to be a screen…
Have a look at PineNote.
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#18Overlooking complaints of lack of backlighting, the Panic Playdate's screen IMHO is its stand out feature. It's a "Sharp Memory LCD" which has the appearance of e-ink and shares it's ability to continue to display an image when unpowered, but has the active refresh rate of a more standard LCD. It's frankly stunning to see in real life, and it's hard to describe how crisp it looks. Videos do not do it justice. It's tr…
So Sharp Memory LCD isn't quite unpowered, but it is measured in hundreds of microwatts of power.... Nearly power free. And this is while updating the screen. EInk is truly 0 energy to hold an image.... but each refresh uses a lot of energy. IIRC, the breakeven vs Sharps memory LCD was like 15-minute refreshes. ---------- Many battery packs have internal leakage in the ~50 microwatts region just a magnitude below to…
IIRC the previous gen Kindles used to switch the cover art every 15 minutes or so.
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#19I love eink displays, I also love the MIP display on my Garmin. I'm excited for where these technologies go.
I would have preferred they investigate some of these newer LCD screens that can work reflectively and optionally with backlights on.
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#20Any first-hand experiences with the Nxtpaper devices? There's a lot of press coverage of the release official material, especially on the 14 inch model, but few actual reviews. Availability or even infos on availability is an issue, at least in Europe as well.