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Tell HN: Stop using Apple's Hide My Email, its a one-way street

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Re: Tell HN: Stop using Apple's Hide My Email, its a one-way street

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Post by rvalue »

c16 wrote: post #7

Apple are pretty clear this is for one way communication. It’s not an email replacement, it’s a privacy tool. There is always a trade off when it comes to privacy, and in this case it is that you can’t send email. There are plenty of great tools out there which allow you to create multiple addresses with the ability to send. Maybe you should consider the trade offs that are acceptable to your specific use case and in…

No, it's not clear, thats my fundamental point. It's actually misinformation.

They call it a feature to create unique, random email addresses.... Email Addresses are for two-way communication.

If I tell you here is a device you use for instant messages. And you ask me, hey how do I send someone a message using this device? I tell you, you can't. That's because you are holding a PAGER.

Re: Tell HN: Stop using Apple's Hide My Email, its a one-way street

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Post by lesserknowndan »

rvalue wrote: post #10
lesserknowndan wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say yes you have. Seeing as most transactional email from businesses is sent from a no-reply address, it would seem this is a huge oversight to not allow someway for you to email the business using that email alias. One question though - does it allow you to respond to a previous email and add a new email address in the "to" field? Also, I don't understand why people would disagree with you pointing this out.…

So if I understand you correctly, say sales@business.com has sent me an email at hme-1@icloud.com, can I reply to this chain by adding another email in the To address, say, another@domain.com There are limitations to sending email itself when using HME. You need to be using an iCloud Mail account only (i.e. email with @icloud.com). This is like saying if you want to be using HME, abandon your current mail provider an…

I was just wondering about the following scenario: 1. I signup with example.com using 'hme-1@icloud.com' 2. I get an activation email sent to this alias from 'noreply@example.com' 3. Sometime later I need to contact them so I create a reply to (2) and remove the address 'noreply' addresss and add 'support@example.com' which I know is a valid support email.

Would example.com get that email?

Re: Tell HN: Stop using Apple's Hide My Email, its a one-way street

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Post by rvalue »

lesserknowndan wrote: post #12
rvalue wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I understand you correctly, say sales@business.com has sent me an email at hme-1@icloud.com, can I reply to this chain by adding another email in the To address, say, another@domain.com There are limitations to sending email itself when using HME. You need to be using an iCloud Mail account only (i.e. email with @icloud.com). This is like saying if you want to be using HME, abandon your current mail provider an…

I was just wondering about the following scenario: 1. I signup with example.com using 'hme-1@icloud.com' 2. I get an activation email sent to this alias from 'noreply@example.com' 3. Sometime later I need to contact them so I create a reply to (2) and remove the address 'noreply' addresss and add 'support@example.com' which I know is a valid support email. Would example.com get that email?

No idea.

Re: Tell HN: Stop using Apple's Hide My Email, its a one-way street

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Post by jamesmotherway »

I came across this post while searching for something else.

This behavior is to mitigate the risk of abuse, plain and simple. Apple does not want ephemeral iCloud addresses sending out malicious content.

Yes, you can still theoretically do this with a regular iCloud email. However, it is rate-limited by the sign up process, which requires the threat actor to burn another email address or phone number (and a device ID, probably).

Use something like SimpleLogin instead. Even still, I find Hide My Email useful for Apple Pay, where I only receive transactional emails anyway.

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