Is the correct interpretation, reading between the lines that the original Mono project is being retired, and basically put on life support?
Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
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Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#12I feel like I’m missing some context here. Is this a “free as in take this puppy” situation? How do the wine developers benefit from this?
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#13I have only used mono a couple times, but I am a bit confused by the wording here and it is likely because I don't know the full story of Mono. But: > Microsoft maintains a modern fork of Mono runtime in the dotnet/runtime repo and has been progressively moving workloads to that fork. Does that mean that this mono project and its associated repo and what is within the dotnet repo are not the same and could (if they h…
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Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#14I have only used mono a couple times, but I am a bit confused by the wording here and it is likely because I don't know the full story of Mono. But: > Microsoft maintains a modern fork of Mono runtime in the dotnet/runtime repo and has been progressively moving workloads to that fork. Does that mean that this mono project and its associated repo and what is within the dotnet repo are not the same and could (if they h…
Mono was the .net implementation for Linux (and others ?) years ago while microsoft published the windows .net runtime
Since then, microsoft supports https://github.com/dotnet/runtime, which is MIT licensed
Mono has no reason to live anymore, hence the lack of commits and contributions
It is a dead project, I wonder what winehq has in mind here
edit: as pointed by the comments, mono supports .net runtime before the newer ".net core" (which is not compatible). Because wine wants to be able to run older windows code, they probably still use this.
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#15"Donates"? A code base is a maintenance burden.
That’s the old code base which has been in maintenance mode for 5 years and which Microsoft doesn’t want to maintain anymore. New development still happen in a fork which remains under the stewardship of Microsoft. Second paragraph of the article by the way, just saying.
So Microsoft gave the Wine project the software equivalent of a stained mattress?
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#16I have only used mono a couple times, but I am a bit confused by the wording here and it is likely because I don't know the full story of Mono. But: > Microsoft maintains a modern fork of Mono runtime in the dotnet/runtime repo and has been progressively moving workloads to that fork. Does that mean that this mono project and its associated repo and what is within the dotnet repo are not the same and could (if they h…
Mono was the .net implementation for Linux (and others ?) years ago while microsoft published the windows .net runtime Since then, microsoft supports https://github.com/dotnet/runtime , which is MIT licensed Mono has no reason to live anymore, hence the lack of commits and contributions It is a dead project, I wonder what winehq has in mind here edit: as pointed by the comments, mono supports .net runtime before the…
Winehq is probably the only org who might have needs to add something in there. So why not have a control of it, even if the contributions are rare.
Edit: To add, isn’t the above about ASP .NET Core? Mono is mostly about the time before Core, and it is not the same.
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#17I have only used mono a couple times, but I am a bit confused by the wording here and it is likely because I don't know the full story of Mono. But: > Microsoft maintains a modern fork of Mono runtime in the dotnet/runtime repo and has been progressively moving workloads to that fork. Does that mean that this mono project and its associated repo and what is within the dotnet repo are not the same and could (if they h…
Mono was the .net implementation for Linux (and others ?) years ago while microsoft published the windows .net runtime Since then, microsoft supports https://github.com/dotnet/runtime , which is MIT licensed Mono has no reason to live anymore, hence the lack of commits and contributions It is a dead project, I wonder what winehq has in mind here edit: as pointed by the comments, mono supports .net runtime before the…
Mono has support for app domains (and is in general closer to .NET Framework), a more powerful C API and runs on more architectures.
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#18I have only used mono a couple times, but I am a bit confused by the wording here and it is likely because I don't know the full story of Mono. But: > Microsoft maintains a modern fork of Mono runtime in the dotnet/runtime repo and has been progressively moving workloads to that fork. Does that mean that this mono project and its associated repo and what is within the dotnet repo are not the same and could (if they h…
Mono was the .net implementation for Linux (and others ?) years ago while microsoft published the windows .net runtime Since then, microsoft supports https://github.com/dotnet/runtime , which is MIT licensed Mono has no reason to live anymore, hence the lack of commits and contributions It is a dead project, I wonder what winehq has in mind here edit: as pointed by the comments, mono supports .net runtime before the…
So if I am understand correctly, what I mentioned is correct?
On the website (where my quote comes from) it links to https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/tree/main/src/mono which is a mono within what you linked too.
So this is a case of 2 different mono's?
Sorry just trying to make sure I am understanding what is happening here properly given the exact same name in 2 places...
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the old code base which has been in maintenance mode for 5 years and which Microsoft doesn’t want to maintain anymore. New development still happen in a fork which remains under the stewardship of Microsoft. Second paragraph of the article by the way, just saying.
So Microsoft gave the Wine project the software equivalent of a stained mattress?
The Wine project apparently decided they wanted to keep alive an old version of a piece of software Microsoft has no interest in and Microsoft gave them the official repo instead of throwing it out.
Mostly interesting in that it is a token of goodwill from Microsoft to Wine something which is in line with the current Microsoft view of the OS market but would have been very surprising not that long ago.
Re: Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the old code base which has been in maintenance mode for 5 years and which Microsoft doesn’t want to maintain anymore. New development still happen in a fork which remains under the stewardship of Microsoft. Second paragraph of the article by the way, just saying.
So Microsoft gave the Wine project the software equivalent of a stained mattress?
It's not like Microsoft can force Wine to take the codebase. In order for this to be donated, the Wine project needed to accept it.