I mostly use Perplexity for searching and general enquiries. I find its inclusion of website sources useful. These citations give me more confidence in its answers. I also like its suggested follow up questions. It's good that these chat AI services can now search for information using recent news and web pages I asked a simple question of ChatGPT and Perplexity 'who were the entertainers at the 2024 dnc?'
ChatGPT didn't mention Stevie Wonder and included some commentary that wasn't in the question. Perplexity gave a more concise answer, and included web links and images.
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#12I've replaced 99% of Google search with ChstGPT and more recently Claude. The experience is much superior. No noise, just the information that I needed.
That's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
Google didn't have 90%-as-good-as-Google locally running search engines to compete against, though.
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#13And this is how the decline of learned society begins.
Maybe. People that spent hours in libraries back before the Internet would have said the same thing. Maybe it will be different this time. I don’t know.
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#14I've replaced 99% of Google search with ChstGPT and more recently Claude. The experience is much superior. No noise, just the information that I needed.
That's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
Google never charged $20/mo.
No one would pay it.
This is different.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
Google didn't have 90%-as-good-as-Google locally running search engines to compete against, though.
How do you update the local running LLMs?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
Google never charged $20/mo. No one would pay it. This is different.
I doubt Google search hardware was as expensive as ChatGPTs is.
OpenAI needs MS for support.
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#17I wish I could use it but I am unclear how anyone accepts, “ What you cannot do. You may not use our Services for any illegal, harmful, or abusive activity. For example, you may not: Use Output to develop models that compete with OpenAI.”
Yadda yadda, they probably won’t enforce it, enjoy that, I’m in malicious compliance mode, it’s not OK for a business to learn from me and then turn around and say I can’t learn from them, same goes for Anthropic, Gemini, Mistral, and Perplexity, if I can’t use the output for work then I don’t use the service.
Have resigned myself to not participate in this aspect of our boring dystopia and feel numb at this point about all the bajillion times someone breaks these rules and gets rewarded for it. I’d insult or mock them but it just gets downvoted and they’re benefitting and I’m probably the one missing out by not just ignoring the rules like them and these companies. Nobody seems to care about these rules.
Anyway, I did get burned using Mistral to help draft an RFC where it totally misinterpreted my intent and I didn’t carefully read it and wound up looking/feeling like a fool because the RFC didn’t communicate my true intention.
Now I try to think for myself and occasionally use groq. Muted all these company names and their chatbot names on X. Glad you’re having fun. So did I, for a while, but now I just don’t feel like paying for brain rape, I’m tired of writing about it, but folks keep writing about how great LLMs are, so I keep feeling compelled to point out, “the set of use cases is empty because of the fine print legalese.”
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#18I've replaced 99% of Google search with ChstGPT and more recently Claude. The experience is much superior. No noise, just the information that I needed.
That's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
It's unfair to compare LLMs to early or even late stage Google.
Early Google was a very simple keyword search engine. Entering a question would confuse the algorithm returning results that sometimes matched the lower value words in your question. It was slick for the time but would feel tedious today next to the simplified output from free and local tier LLMs.
The reason Google and the internet feels tedious today has less to do with Google's ads and more to do with the gamed page rank results, the mountain of ads you find on websites that have aggregated all of the content that used to be useful on the internet and the lowering of information quality over the years.
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#19I've replaced 99% of Google search with ChstGPT and more recently Claude. The experience is much superior. No noise, just the information that I needed.
That's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
I'm already doing AI search optimizations and the early results are quite promising!
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#20I mostly use Perplexity for searching and general enquiries. I find its inclusion of website sources useful. These citations give me more confidence in its answers. I also like its suggested follow up questions. It's good that these chat AI services can now search for information using recent news and web pages I asked a simple question of ChatGPT and Perplexity 'who were the entertainers at the 2024 dnc?' ChatGPT di…
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