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Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

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Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

>But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years

Honestly I doubt it.

ChatGPT is a free service that is genuinely helpful. For the Metaverse you need to buy the headset and the hardware to run it for what? Wasting time in a virtual store instead of just using a UI? Using it on a worst version of VRchat?

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

> It's Ray-ban smart glasses is already a huge hit.

Sure, "huge hit". Anecdote but the only time Ive ever seen anyone wear one was when I interviewed at meta and one of the folks interviewing me was wearing them.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

If anything, what I’ve heard from friends at or adjacent to Meta is that they’re paring back metaverse ambitions and capabilities on their future devices because of the success of the Ray-Bans glasses and the relatively middling sales of the Quest 3.

The Ray-Bans are also a weird anomaly since they’re leaning on the Ray-Bans designer pricing to justify a lot of the cost. If you’re already buying a pair of luxury sunglasses that cost close to $200, what’s another $100 to get the smart version?

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

> It's Ray-ban smart glasses is already a huge hit. Sure, "huge hit". Anecdote but the only time Ive ever seen anyone wear one was when I interviewed at meta and one of the folks interviewing me was wearing them.

Also, completely anecdotal, but the only people I’ve ever seen wearing them are Facebook employees.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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The Vision Pro is a solution looking for a problem. This is the same problem plaguing Apple Home. It just feels very - so what? Tech nerds like it because it's "cool", but everybody else is wondering why would I ever need this thing? Personally, I think they need to be thinking of a more Apple Watch type device wearable in normal glasses frames. Something more akin to Google Glass, and yes, I'm familiar with the term…

Apple Home (as an integrated Matter/Thread client) is far more useful than the Vision Pro.

It's easy to fixate on things like colorful lights, but consider instead automations based on how much energy is used when. For example, if I have a box fan or a portable AC unit on a smart plug, I can automate it running while I'm gone only if the temperature gets to a excess (for the benefit of pets, fruit on the counter, running computers, etc) or only when electricity is cheaper and/or cleaner.

The most useful IoT devices, I think, aren't purpose devices that have a microcontroller integrated into them... so much as ones whose primary and only purpose bridge digital and physical by allowing you to actuate something remotely, be it the flow of electrify (smart plug), or physically flipping a switch (switchbot type).

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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The Vision Pro is a solution looking for a problem. This is the same problem plaguing Apple Home. It just feels very - so what? Tech nerds like it because it's "cool", but everybody else is wondering why would I ever need this thing? Personally, I think they need to be thinking of a more Apple Watch type device wearable in normal glasses frames. Something more akin to Google Glass, and yes, I'm familiar with the term…

> Or maybe these are just products we don't need? That's exactly it, they're products we don't -need-. If you already have a smartphone, that's good enough. This is the same problem that plagues the AI assistant devices - it doesn't matter what they can do, they won't replace your smartphone. Which means you're asking someone to carry (and pay for) a smartphone + an extra device. That's a big ask. It's also the reaso…

> they're products we don't -need-. If you already have a smartphone, that's good enough.

I disagree.

If LinkedIn made AR glasses that told me who the person is I’m looking at (that I’m connected to on LinkedIn) and why/how we were connected, I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

>But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years Honestly I doubt it. ChatGPT is a free service that is genuinely helpful. For the Metaverse you need to buy the headset and the hardware to run it for what? Wasting time in a virtual store instead of just using a UI? Using it on a worst version of VRchat?

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Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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The Vision Pro is a solution looking for a problem. This is the same problem plaguing Apple Home. It just feels very - so what? Tech nerds like it because it's "cool", but everybody else is wondering why would I ever need this thing? Personally, I think they need to be thinking of a more Apple Watch type device wearable in normal glasses frames. Something more akin to Google Glass, and yes, I'm familiar with the term…

Yeah I frequently look at the vision pro reviews and think it would be cool to try, but I know after about a month I would get bored with it. $3500 is alot of money to spend on what is essentially the perfect device for watching movies on an airplane.

It is an insanely impressive technology; however, like the iPadOS I think it is going to take a decade or so to have enough functionality to even consider being useful for professional tasks. I don't want to have to buy a macbook just to stream it to the vision pro to do any coding tasks.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Before the bandwagon jumps on "Metaverse is dead", Meta is pursuing multiple headsets, devices strategy and trying to find the right Features / Price mix. Quest 2 is the most successful headset and it seem to have the perfect balance. Quest 3 although great, probably is slightly expensive for the mass market. But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.…

> But there will be a chatGPT moment for Metaverse in the next 5 years and Meta's strategy will pay dividends.

You mean lose billions within an unclear race that may ultimately lead to commodity prices like TVs?

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