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Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Interesting that they are creating a separate team just for the EU app store, presumably because the EU is forcing Apple to make some changes. It seems like the investigations in the US, UK, Japan, etc will eventually lead to them being required to make similar changes everywhere.

Geo-fenced app stores could align with geo-fenced networks bounded by GFC-style inspection and filtering of network packets.

I’m very happy for Apple to geofence the EU cryptography backdoors they’re going to have to put in eventually.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

#12

> There will now be one team for the familiar, Apple-run App Store, and another one to handle alternative app stores in the European Union Could someone explain why Apple needs someone to handle something they're not doing? I assume 3rd party companies are running their own servers and everything, is this just for the client-side software development? Tangential but it's funny how by digging their heels in so tightly…

Why do all the Big Tech companies have teams dedicated to Privacy, Trust & Safety, AI Ethics, etc?

The way a large organization functions is to have a directly-responsible individual for each attribute that they care about (or don't care about, but are legally required to do), and then assume that person is looking out to advance that interest. They may or may not succeed - in large companies it's often very difficult to push the ball forward on attributes that the organization at large does not care about. But that gives the company somebody to fire and pin the blame on when negative consequences arise, which in turn shields the corporation itself from liability. And since the employees are themselves protected by the corporate liability shield, the worst that can happen is they lose their job, and don't get personally sued.

This also explains why the role at Apple is being split between two executives: it gives them the option of firing the one in charge of the EU DMA efforts, if Apple is found in violation of them, without firing the one who is actually running the App Store.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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post #5

Since we're here I have a suggestion to offer. When submitting your mobile app to the App Store there is a checkbox/option somewhere asking you to if you want to distribute the app to Mac as well. DO NOT do that. If enough people do that we'll end up having a Mac app store walled garden powerful enough to extract its 30% tax.

Even worse, a lack of software and market penetration on the Mac App Store is the only thing stopping Apple from disabling non-App-Store applications on Macs like they do on iOS. They've already implemented the technical side of it under the guise of "security."

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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post #5

Since we're here I have a suggestion to offer. When submitting your mobile app to the App Store there is a checkbox/option somewhere asking you to if you want to distribute the app to Mac as well. DO NOT do that. If enough people do that we'll end up having a Mac app store walled garden powerful enough to extract its 30% tax.

I don't follow. How does withholding apps from the Mac App Store make it stronger, and what do you mean by "powerful enough to extract its 30% tax"? Legit question, I just don't get what you're saying, no argument.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Interesting that they are creating a separate team just for the EU app store, presumably because the EU is forcing Apple to make some changes. It seems like the investigations in the US, UK, Japan, etc will eventually lead to them being required to make similar changes everywhere.

Creating a separate store just to be able to get away with anti consume anti competitive practices everywhere else is just so dishonest and unethical. I don’t understand why consumers give Apple the benefit of the doubt, trusting such a powerful entity to be benevolent. But I guess maybe it is because the everyday user isn’t visibly affected by those practices and they don’t know that they could benefit from change?

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Interesting that they are creating a separate team just for the EU app store, presumably because the EU is forcing Apple to make some changes. It seems like the investigations in the US, UK, Japan, etc will eventually lead to them being required to make similar changes everywhere.

It's unlikely that the US will force Apple to make EU-style changes. It's been 26 years since the DOJ went after Microsoft and lost, and corporate regulation has only grown weaker.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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post #13
post #5

Since we're here I have a suggestion to offer. When submitting your mobile app to the App Store there is a checkbox/option somewhere asking you to if you want to distribute the app to Mac as well. DO NOT do that. If enough people do that we'll end up having a Mac app store walled garden powerful enough to extract its 30% tax.

Even worse, a lack of software and market penetration on the Mac App Store is the only thing stopping Apple from disabling non-App-Store applications on Macs like they do on iOS. They've already implemented the technical side of it under the guise of "security."

That's the only thing stoping Apple? Not the fact that if they did that every mac out there would become unusable?

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Interesting that they are creating a separate team just for the EU app store, presumably because the EU is forcing Apple to make some changes. It seems like the investigations in the US, UK, Japan, etc will eventually lead to them being required to make similar changes everywhere.

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users will get new default settings for dialing phone numbers, sending messages, translating text, navigation, managing passwords, keyboards, and call spam filters

Additionally, the App Store, Messages, Photos, Camera, and Safari apps will now be deletable for users in the EU.

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https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=zglax7gc

Instead being on top of things and pre-empting the inevitable, they are just reacting.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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post #14
post #5

Since we're here I have a suggestion to offer. When submitting your mobile app to the App Store there is a checkbox/option somewhere asking you to if you want to distribute the app to Mac as well. DO NOT do that. If enough people do that we'll end up having a Mac app store walled garden powerful enough to extract its 30% tax.

I don't follow. How does withholding apps from the Mac App Store make it stronger, and what do you mean by "powerful enough to extract its 30% tax"? Legit question, I just don't get what you're saying, no argument.

Apple won't pull the trigger and ban 90% of apps to profit on the other 10%.

Apple may pull the trigger and ban 10% of apps to profit (more) on the other 90%.

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