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Re: Zed AI

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Post by CapeTheory »

andrepd wrote: post #5
mikkelam wrote: post #2

Ive been using Zed's assistant panel heavily and have really enjoyed the experience. The UI can be a bit frustrating. Sometimes, when you write it's hard to get it to send your query. The new /workflow seems to really bridge the last gap to effectively edit the parts that im asking for help with changes. I'm already paying for OpenAI API access, definitely gonna try this

It's the opposite for me ahaha. I'm very excited for Zed as a performant and powerful text editor, an "updated + open-source sublime text" if you will. But I have absolutely no interest in AI and copilot and github integrations and whatnot. This is not a criticism of zed though, I simply have no interest. Much the contrary: I can only praise Zed as to how simple it is to disable all these integrations!

Same here. If I found Zed now I would probably avoid it, but having tried it already I'm glad to have it, and will just turn off the intrusive bits.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by teekert »

siscia wrote: post #8

The main issue with these set of tools is that I mostly read and understand code more than writing it myself. Not enough attention is been given to this imbalance. It is impressive having an AI that can write code for you, but an AI that helps me understand which code we (as a team) should write would be much more useful.

Sounds like you’re better helped by something like codescene?

Re: Zed AI

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Post by jstummbillig »

janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

What it shows is that it can be done — in a limited way. Other people might not like those limits and chose to go a different way. I am not sure what's worth lamenting here.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by janice1999 »

_joel wrote: post #9
janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

Interesting, have you used it/found it to be usable? I use IntelliJ myself, but it's not known for being a lean beast. With the addition of stuff like test containers and a few plugins, I'd be suprised if my machine didn't melt adding a local LLM too.

I mainly use PyCharm and I found the auto-complete to be good. It doesn't always kick in when I expect but some of the suggestions have been surprisingly complex and correct.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by DiabloD3 »

I had hope Zed would be a good editor for junior developers, but that ship apparently has sailed, and it's destination isn't where we need to go.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by raincole »

janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

I tried it with C#. It's not comparable to Copilot.

If I've never used Copilot I might be slightly impressed.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by stephc_int13 »

Not releasing a cross-platform code editor on the dominant OS seems quite weird in my opinion. (I know they plan to do it, but as someone who has built cross-platform apps, this is not rocket science to have Win32 support from the start.)

Re: Zed AI

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Post by forrestthewoods »

Hrm. Still not quite what I crave.

Here's roughly what I want. I want to be able to highlight some block of code, ask the AI to modify it in some way, and then I want to see a diff view of before/after that lets me accept or reject changes.

LLMs often get code slightly wrong. That's fine! Doesn't bother me at all. What I need is an interface that allows me to iterate on code AND helps me understand the changes.

As a concrete example I recently used Claude to help me write some Python matplotlib code. It took me roughly a dozen plus iterations. I had to use a separate diff tool so that I could understand what changes were being made. Blindly copy/pasting LLM code is insufficient.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by treesciencebot »

janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

running a much worse model at a higher latency (since local GPU power is limited) is a worse experience for Zed.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

raincole wrote: post #16
janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

I tried it with C#. It's not comparable to Copilot. If I've never used Copilot I might be slightly impressed.

I don’t see programming getting exponentially harder. So eventually local compute will catch up with programming needs and offline AI will be pretty good.
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