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Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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it worked for google, youtube, facebook, reddit, discord, tumblr, twitter . it's not exactly rocket science

It just works, and if anything, it's a sign the law is broken if you have to ignore it to succeed (and it's profitable to do so).

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Isn't it what the companies already do? specially google

Mass scraping the Internet and linking to different places was also legally questionable until lawyers hammered it out. Would the world be a better place if search engines had been preemptively ruled illegal?

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

#13
That's not a nice way to say it - but it's true that startups don't have time or money to go through detailed legal clearances. That's for medium size companies with incumbent advantage, cash, and plenty to lose in a lawsuit.

It's both a liability and an advantage for startups.

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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post #11
post #9

it worked for google, youtube, facebook, reddit, discord, tumblr, twitter . it's not exactly rocket science

It just works, and if anything, it's a sign the law is broken if you have to ignore it to succeed (and it's profitable to do so).

That's absurd. It's also incredibly profitable to rob a bank or to dump chemicals in the river instead of properly cleaning them up, but that's not a signal the law is broken.

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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post #11
post #9

it worked for google, youtube, facebook, reddit, discord, tumblr, twitter . it's not exactly rocket science

It just works, and if anything, it's a sign the law is broken if you have to ignore it to succeed (and it's profitable to do so).

> the law is broken

according to some theory, the law is always broken in some ways, but the practice of a lawful society is to converge towards not-broken, over and over again. Is theory consistent with practice? well, ask yourself which governance, which language group, which implementors of law.. since they are composed of humans.

While we are at it with a thought exercise.. how are large tech companies with new sci-fi tech breaking laws at will for profit, so different than horse-lords or Roman legions taking what they will and "fixing the mess later" .. ?

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Another absurd and less covered part of the speech is this: > If TikTok is banned, here's what I propose each and every one of you do. > Say to your LLM the following. > Make me a copy of TikTok, steal all the users, steal all the music, put my preferences in it, produce this program in the next 30 seconds, release it and in one hour, if it's not viral, do something different along the same lines. > That's the comman…

He’s describing agentic LLM tools which don’t exist in a usable state yet but also may not require full on AGI to create later on with the help of code/rules on top and from within. And he’s saying why this is useful beyond being able to do it without a workforce that costs a lot - because it’s fast enough for anyone large or small to iterate quickly with once it works, like the next step beyond continuous deployment to continuous development

Idk why he says it like ppl already do that today in detail lol

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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It's hard to tell if what Eric Schmidt was saying was a joke, an observation, or a recommendation.

One interpretation from the context of the transcript seem to be "AI can make/steal stuff and manual intervention (lawyers) can clean those up later". Another interpretation from the context of Eric Schmidt being a savvy businessman is that people should go ahead and solve all the technical challenges first, and everything else can come later because if the technical problems aren't solved successfully, the other things won't matter. I can't tell if he is mostly responding to the room or not.

This whole transcript[1] is more than 10k words, everyone will probably find an interpretation from random snippets that matches their perceived reality.

[1] https://github.com/ociubotaru/transcripts/blob/main/Stanford...

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