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When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

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Re: When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

#11
It's fascinating to me how German composite words encapsulate an idea like "[failure attributed to] demonstration effect" in a way that just saying "demonstration effect" in English often fails to accomplish.

I also love how German often has useful opposites - schadenfreude vs fremdschamen, for example.

On that note, is there an opposite to this, where someone observes that something's not working, they call in the expert to diagnose the problem, and it functions perfectly under demonstration?

Re: When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

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I don't think this one is going to make it into English. Vorführeffekt is a bit hard to pronounce.

Doesnt seem that hard to mangle into english: Vore-fyur-effect

Fohr-fyur-effect [ˈfoːɐ̯fyːɐ̯ʔɛˌfɛkt]

Letter 'v' is called "fow" in German and is pronounced as sound "f".

Re: When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

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> The phenomenon that something which was previously working correctly, suddenly does not work correctly when one tries to demonstrate the operation to others. the same word is also used for the reverse situation, i.e. if something that did not work suddenly works when trying to demonstrate the failure. think bug reporting e.g. at the car mechanic, warranty claims, etc. if you try to show a reproducible bug to others…

Is the word only for unpleasant surprises, or for all such situations, even when the surprising outcome is also a good one?

Re: When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

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post #14
post #9

> The phenomenon that something which was previously working correctly, suddenly does not work correctly when one tries to demonstrate the operation to others. the same word is also used for the reverse situation, i.e. if something that did not work suddenly works when trying to demonstrate the failure. think bug reporting e.g. at the car mechanic, warranty claims, etc. if you try to show a reproducible bug to others…

Is the word only for unpleasant surprises, or for all such situations, even when the surprising outcome is also a good one?

i've never seen it used for pleasant surprises. its basically if you want to show something (even something that does not work, like the engine-not-starting) and the demonstration does not work as expected.

Re: When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

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It's fascinating to me how German composite words encapsulate an idea like "[failure attributed to] demonstration effect" in a way that just saying "demonstration effect" in English often fails to accomplish. I also love how German often has useful opposites - schadenfreude vs fremdschamen, for example. On that note, is there an opposite to this, where someone observes that something's not working, they call in the e…

We sometimes use the term Houdini in my field for difficult-to-reproduce problems, but not exactly as an antonym to Vorführeffekt.
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