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Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#13

It's a shame he doesn't go in to specifics, just saying "Fuck you" makes him look like a child, which I am sure he isn't. What is the problem?

Unlike Intel and ATI, Nvidia doesn't play nice with open source developers.

It's still much harder to find ATI drivers for Linux than Nvidia drivers.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#14

It's a shame he doesn't go in to specifics, just saying "Fuck you" makes him look like a child, which I am sure he isn't. What is the problem?

I guess the problem is that Nvidia pretending to be Linux supporting company (they even joined Linux Foundation) while completely disregards linux users in many ways, e.g Nvidia still doesn't support Optimus in drivers for Linux. What stopped them? Today almost every second laptop goes with GPU built with nvidia optimus technology and it's can be a very painful experience to use linux on such devices.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#15

TLDR: Linus at a Q&A, a woman asks why Nvidia still isn't providing any support for Optimus on Linux, Linus responds that Nvidia is being really difficult about that without good reason and "Fuck You Nvidia!" (flicks off the camera). Her question actually starts a minute earlier than the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&t=48m14s PS - Bravo Linus. This is issue is a real PITA, and a bit incongruent con…

That doesn't reflect his opinion. First, Linus states Nvidia is an exception, one of the worst trouble spots. And he is also very upset because Nvidia at the same time tries to sell a lot of chips into the Android market, a Linux based system. Very ungrateful of Nvidia. I agree, fuck Nvidia.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#16

I'm behind the times here, but it took me a second to realize this was really Linus in the video. I still think of him as looking like the now-10-year-old photo gracing his Wikipedia article ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linus_Torvalds.jpeg ), but he looks a lot older here, possibly accentuated by the business attire.

Same thing happened to Larry Page. When I saw the Charlie Rose interview I hardly recognized him.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike Intel and ATI, Nvidia doesn't play nice with open source developers.

It's still much harder to find ATI drivers for Linux than Nvidia drivers.

Wait, what? There are radeon drivers within the open source ecosystem, and AMD also supplies an alternate proprietary driver, bad quality as it is, for those people who find 3D support essential.

You can make the argument that nVidia Linux drivers are much better, but I don't see where you're getting the idea that it's hard to find AMD drivers.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike Intel and ATI, Nvidia doesn't play nice with open source developers.

It's still much harder to find ATI drivers for Linux than Nvidia drivers.

There is basically no nvidia drivers available for many modern mobile GPUs on Linux, so I doubt that Nvidia is more linux friendly than ATI/AMD nowadays.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

#20

It's a shame he doesn't go in to specifics, just saying "Fuck you" makes him look like a child, which I am sure he isn't. What is the problem?

I don't think that this would have been the right venue to go into an in-depth rant about Nvidia's lack of cooperation. That's certainly not what the audience was looking for and probably not what Linus wanted to go into; moreover, I doubt anybody from Nvidia was there or would even have heard the talk.

The last point is somewhat ironic: if Linus had been reasonable and talked about Nvidia at length, Nvidia would probably not have noticed the talk; since Linus decided to be curt, the talk got onto HN and people from Nvidia have no doubt noticed it.

Besides, whatever you think about it, Linus's approach was indubitably effective. We are, after all, talking about the issue right now!

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