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Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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What is more likely to turn out "one decent desktop environment"?

1) Take all developers interested in desktop environments, ask them to collaborate and come up with one (1) desktop environment that suits everybody's need

2) Let developers who want to experiment with their own desktop environment, do so, with the hope that at least one experiment results in a decent desktop environment. The ones that want to collaborate can do so

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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One cool feature that I didn’t see described very well here is Cosmic allows you to group windows in tabs, but the tabs can be different applications. Kind of an interesting idea that the OS/window manager is what should be responsible for tab support, not each application.

I like the idea but I also get reminded of the way the edge browser turns each tab into its own unit in the alt-tab switcher. That feels quite annoying.

There are a number of UX conventions, like tabs and tiles that often get replicated across both OS level and across different apps and they get slightly different key combos and interaction details.

It would be interesting if those conventions could be moved to the window manager layer instead. But then there are probably a bunch of interesting edge cases that needs solutions. Like should the file tree navigator of the ide exist in a separate WM-tile than the editor tiles? And if the file navigation spawns an editor, where should it appear? Etc...

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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It sounds like the differentiator here is that it's modular for the purposes of creating unique branded experiences. Is this in effect to position it as an Android alternative for applications in things like cars, etc?

They're bringing up customization because a contributing factor to System76 deciding to make their own DE rather than continuing to work with the GNOME developers was a difference of opinions on the amount of customization/branding that a distribution could add to GNOME.

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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It sounds like the differentiator here is that it's modular for the purposes of creating unique branded experiences. Is this in effect to position it as an Android alternative for applications in things like cars, etc?

I think it is just intended for distro maintainers to help differentiate their distros.

Like how endeavourOS uses purple rather than the default KDE colors.

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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One cool feature that I didn’t see described very well here is Cosmic allows you to group windows in tabs, but the tabs can be different applications. Kind of an interesting idea that the OS/window manager is what should be responsible for tab support, not each application.

Stacking is fantastic feature but it's not unique to Cosmic as the current DE for Pop_OS already has this feature. Also available on Windows with FancyWM, which has been growing on me.

Also available for KWin since a very long time (at least a decade).

Re: Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment

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One cool feature that I didn’t see described very well here is Cosmic allows you to group windows in tabs, but the tabs can be different applications. Kind of an interesting idea that the OS/window manager is what should be responsible for tab support, not each application.

Stacking is fantastic feature but it's not unique to Cosmic as the current DE for Pop_OS already has this feature. Also available on Windows with FancyWM, which has been growing on me.

Several Linux WMs and DEs had this feature a long time ago, when screen space was kind of at a premium. Fluxbox had it for as long as I can remember it. KDE used to have it at some point in its 3.x or 4.x-series releases, I don't recall which one.
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