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Re: Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

#11

Post by Zealotux »

shay_ker wrote: post #10

How does Hetzner manage to be so much cheaper than AWS & GCP? Are the other cloud providers just making THAT much margin, or does Hetzner have a special angle?

IIRC, they produce their own hardware (including using consumer-grade components, if I'm not mistaken) and optimize every bit for efficiency. Managed services also come with an extra fee. From my experience, they're also more selective about clients.

They're also based in Germany, so they don't have to pay the hyper-inflated SV salaries and probably don't overhire, but I'm only speculating here.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

#12

Post by shay_ker »

Zealotux wrote: post #11
shay_ker wrote: post #10

How does Hetzner manage to be so much cheaper than AWS & GCP? Are the other cloud providers just making THAT much margin, or does Hetzner have a special angle?

IIRC, they produce their own hardware (including using consumer-grade components, if I'm not mistaken) and optimize every bit for efficiency. Managed services also come with an extra fee. From my experience, they're also more selective about clients. They're also based in Germany, so they don't have to pay the hyper-inflated SV salaries and probably don't overhire, but I'm only speculating here.

Don’t AWS and GCP also produce some of their own chips and hardware?

But basically you’re saying, yes, AWS and GCP are making just as much, maybe more, margin as Hetzner?

Re: Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

#13

Post by Hetzner_OL »

shay_ker wrote: post #10

How does Hetzner manage to be so much cheaper than AWS & GCP? Are the other cloud providers just making THAT much margin, or does Hetzner have a special angle?

We get asked this question a lot, so we wrote up an explanation: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/pricing/hetzner-prici... --Katie

Re: Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

shay_ker wrote: post #12
Zealotux wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC, they produce their own hardware (including using consumer-grade components, if I'm not mistaken) and optimize every bit for efficiency. Managed services also come with an extra fee. From my experience, they're also more selective about clients. They're also based in Germany, so they don't have to pay the hyper-inflated SV salaries and probably don't overhire, but I'm only speculating here.

Don’t AWS and GCP also produce some of their own chips and hardware? But basically you’re saying, yes, AWS and GCP are making just as much, maybe more, margin as Hetzner?

AWS, Azure and GCP have much higher margins than Hetzner. So while I use these services when working for my employers because they pay me to do so, when I spend my own money on my startup I use Hetzner exclusively.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

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Post by killingtime74 »

Cordiali wrote: post #8
Hetzner_OL wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with all of our locations, we strive to keep our costs a low as possible. Traffic plays a major role in the costs of our cloud servers. Our analyses have shown that the majority of users tend to require less traffic. Therefore we adjusted the included traffic. This means that the many users with low consumption do not pay for the few users with high consumption, and we can make the prices fairer overall. --Katie

Do you expect the traffic price to come down over time for Singapore, or not really? I'm based in Australia, and will need to get a server set up sometime in the not too distant future, so Singapore might be a good option. I have a small suggestion: I found it confusing that the price was € 7.40 in the infobox, but € 8.14 in the Traffic section. The infobox mentioned it's exclusive of tax, so I realised the latter fi…

I'm also based in Australia and I've been using their West coast US location

Re: Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

#20

Post by ralferoo »

Seems quite pricey to me:

CPX11 - 2 shared vCPU, 2 GB RAM, 40 GB, 1TB bandwidth, €7.90 + VAT

CCX13 - 2 dedicated vCPU, 8 GB RAM, 80 GB, 1TB bandwidth, €21.50 + VAT

For comparison with Germany, Finland and US with 20 TB bandwidth: CCX12 is €4.35 + VAT, CCX13 is €12.49 + VAT

People have been asking for other regions for a long time, but Hetzner is usually extremely good price for the specs but in this case the bandwidth allowance is very low (and €7.40+VAT/TB overage) and there are other providers (e.g. greencloud) who can beat this with their standard prices and massively beat this when they run promotions.

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