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Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

Oh man ... next up is growing your own pizza, fugget about it (>the supermarket)! Even with no sun! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41060621 >Why the Wisconsin pizza farm movement is an idea whose time has come (UPDATE: sorry to the Croatians being overrun by tourists.. guys .. Croatian food is so-so ;) tomatoes, olive oil, cheese, it's nice to be reminded that Croatians (and their Yugoslav brothers, secretly,)…

Reminder that it's still not quite known why the Soviet Union stopped the quite planned invasion of Yugoslavia.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

>> They are not demanding

I have to disagree on this one. They are prone to a myriad of diseases, mainly fungus: Phytophthora infenstans, Fulvia fulva, Botrytis cinerea, Mosaic Virus, Stolbur disease, and if you don't spray them with the right substances you'll lose a substantial part if not the whole crop, oftentimes lose it even if you spray them.

Other than that I agree that home grown tomatoes are better. Of course you mustn't be stupid and buy some supermarket seeds, those are awful. Use local varieties, several of them as there are subtle differences in taste and flavor. Like "oxheart" for instance: https://gomagcdn.ro/domains2/planteieftine.ro/files/product/...

Although I can buy local varieties from the grocery market and I do, they might not be just as good as a fresh one from the garden. Part of the reason is the difficulty in storing them, if you stack them one over another they will get crushed and you won't sell crushed tomatoes to the customers. So farmers tend to pick them when they aren't fully ripe and I freaking hate unripe tomatoes. Still they tend to be way better than supermarket "plastic tomatoes" offering.

One tip, pick the smaller tomatoes, they tend to be sweeter. Or at least that's what I noticed.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Here in Montenegro I go to a nearby green market, “zelena pijaca” in our language, and similar stuff is usually available. Often more expensive than the ones from Netherlands but still, commercially available without black market.

However, availability of the good stuff depends heavily on the time of the year.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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I'm Polish expat living in Norway. There are no tomatoes to be had in Norway... Just kidding. I'm actually kind of alright with the small ones (pearl tomatoes), any other don't taste like tomatoes. I believe, that the Norwegian people are so used to blandly tasting vegetables, that the worst and least ripe product parties are send to Norway.

But my wife and her family are tomato people. Every time we visit Poland or anybody from Poland visits us, they need to bring some malinowy (raspberry) tomatoes. Premium price, color slightly pinkish rather than true red, shape is a little bulbous, like a pumpkin, rather than perfect round like regular tomatoes.

You can actually get them (or other good tomatoes) even in many supermarkets, tho it's best to go to a local produce market. And ofc best ones can be had from people growing their own.

Same really goes for eggs - there is another dimension to taste and you get more sated eating less, if you can buy eggs from someone feeding the chicks properly. Though, if I had a car and knew a good source, I could probably buy better eggs here in Norway. However, supermarket eggs (and meat too) are much better in Norway. Most likely due to more stringent rules for animal farming, as Norway is not part of the EU and can have it's own, more strict rules. For example, Norwegian bacon doesn't smell like men's locker room after a football game (compared to swedish) and doesn't have a ton of water leave it when frying.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

Why is capitalism failing us here? Why do we need to grow our own?

Simple: quality tomatoes are hard to transport and they don’t last when on the shelf. The closest thing to a “real” farm tomato you can buy at a reasonable price is “Kumato” from Trader Joe’s. It’s a pale imitation of a real tomato picked off the plant when it’s ripe, but at least it reminds me of it, whereas a “regular” store bought tomato doesn’t taste anything like the real thing.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

>> They are not demanding I have to disagree on this one. They are prone to a myriad of diseases, mainly fungus: Phytophthora infenstans, Fulvia fulva, Botrytis cinerea, Mosaic Virus, Stolbur disease, and if you don't spray them with the right substances you'll lose a substantial part if not the whole crop, oftentimes lose it even if you spray them. Other than that I agree that home grown tomatoes are better. Of cour…

I lost some crops myself but tomatoes still fared better than other vegetables. It's not like some enormous investment? Having homegrown tomatoes every other year is better than nothing. If you have kids, it's a good lesson about difficulty of obtaining food from nature.

I had success with mycorrhizal "good" fungi (brand Symbivit), they were keeping bad fungi away with visible difference between treated and untreated plants.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

>> They are not demanding I have to disagree on this one. They are prone to a myriad of diseases, mainly fungus: Phytophthora infenstans, Fulvia fulva, Botrytis cinerea, Mosaic Virus, Stolbur disease, and if you don't spray them with the right substances you'll lose a substantial part if not the whole crop, oftentimes lose it even if you spray them. Other than that I agree that home grown tomatoes are better. Of cour…

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Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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It's been a long lasting peeve of mine. I Live in London, where you can easily satisfy every kink, even the most exotic fruits and spices are found in every corner of the city. Yet, for the love of me, I cannot find any tasty tomato. Even if money is no issue, it just doesn't seem to exist? A giant void in a huge market? At this point, I'd pay 10x prices without blinking. It's fair that I cannot find them in winter,…

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Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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It's been a long lasting peeve of mine. I Live in London, where you can easily satisfy every kink, even the most exotic fruits and spices are found in every corner of the city. Yet, for the love of me, I cannot find any tasty tomato. Even if money is no issue, it just doesn't seem to exist? A giant void in a huge market? At this point, I'd pay 10x prices without blinking. It's fair that I cannot find them in winter,…

I find pretty much all fruit and vegetables to be rubbish in Scotland. The only exception is the couple of things grown here. Which is baffling given if you fly for couple of hours you can get fantastic produce everywhere.
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