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Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

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Post by changer1 »

Jugurtha wrote: post #9

I wanted to have some background on your earlier submission and checked it out. It turns out I have already commented on it 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40844376 This still stands. How many potential customers have you since talked with to de-risk the very "market existence" aspect first?

none. my go to market strategy is to talk with restaurant chains and tell them i'll cut down their costs and basically fight for their earnings. and i have someone in mind that i can probably reach out to has a restaurant chain spreads over 200 restaurants. the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea. and because my app would require some kind of technical infrastructure i don't wanna start talking with local restaurants. i feel like i can convince the big boys and the locals would follow them.

Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

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Post by Jugurtha »

changer1 wrote: post #11
Jugurtha wrote: post #9

I wanted to have some background on your earlier submission and checked it out. It turns out I have already commented on it 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40844376 This still stands. How many potential customers have you since talked with to de-risk the very "market existence" aspect first?

none. my go to market strategy is to talk with restaurant chains and tell them i'll cut down their costs and basically fight for their earnings. and i have someone in mind that i can probably reach out to has a restaurant chain spreads over 200 restaurants. the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea. and because my app would require some kind of technical infrastructure i don't wanna start talk…

>the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea.

Why? It doesn't have to be the idea itself. You can ask questions to check whether it is a problem first as opposed to talking about your solution. What if they're not aware it's a problem, or don't care about it? It's harder to sell a solution to a problem to someone who is not aware of the problem or does not care about the problem than it is to someone who's well aware, who cares about it, and who's tried to solve it but failed.

>and because my app would require some kind of technical infrastructure i don't wanna start talking with local restaurants.

Why?

>i feel like i can convince the big boys and the locals would follow them.

Feel? Wouldn't having actual conversations and learning things that are invisible to you right now beat that and shed light on many things?

Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

#13

Post by changer1 »

Jugurtha wrote: post #12
changer1 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

none. my go to market strategy is to talk with restaurant chains and tell them i'll cut down their costs and basically fight for their earnings. and i have someone in mind that i can probably reach out to has a restaurant chain spreads over 200 restaurants. the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea. and because my app would require some kind of technical infrastructure i don't wanna start talk…

> the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea. Why? It doesn't have to be the idea itself. You can ask questions to check whether it is a problem first as opposed to talking about your solution. What if they're not aware it's a problem, or don't care about it? It's harder to sell a solution to a problem to someone who is not aware of the problem or does not care about the problem than it is to s…

1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally my idea is just adding him at linkedin 2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure. 3. my only concern is about the product

Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

#14

Post by Jugurtha »

changer1 wrote: post #13
Jugurtha wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea. Why? It doesn't have to be the idea itself. You can ask questions to check whether it is a problem first as opposed to talking about your solution. What if they're not aware it's a problem, or don't care about it? It's harder to sell a solution to a problem to someone who is not aware of the problem or does not care about the problem than it is to s…

1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally my idea is just adding him at linkedin 2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure. 3. my only concern is about the product

>1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally

So? You'll talk with many people you didn't personally know. Case in point, we're having this conversation.

>2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure.

I'm sure you have reasons that lead you to this, and I'm sure you'll learn many things talking with people in the field.

>3. my only concern is about the product

So many built the best product people never used.

Please get out there and talk with people in a way they'll tell you about their problems and what they've done to solve them or not.

Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

#15

Post by changer1 »

Jugurtha wrote: post #14
changer1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally my idea is just adding him at linkedin 2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure. 3. my only concern is about the product

> 1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally So? You'll talk with many people you didn't personally know. Case in point, we're having this conversation. > 2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure. I'm su…

you are right but i just wanna start doing real stuff. build it. if it won't fit in the market so be it i don't care. i just wanna do something.

Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

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Post by Jugurtha »

changer1 wrote: post #15
Jugurtha wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally So? You'll talk with many people you didn't personally know. Case in point, we're having this conversation. > 2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure. I'm su…

you are right but i just wanna start doing real stuff. build it. if it won't fit in the market so be it i don't care. i just wanna do something.

I understand. You have the itch. You want to build it. This is completely understandable. However, it's not like you can, as you don't have the technical skills to do so. In other words, you're refusing to do something you can now, which is probe the market, because you're in hurry to do something you're not yet capable of doing...

What would you say, if you probe a little bit and get a slight understanding of problems, and then, learn how to code just that. Little by little, you learn and stay motivated because you're converging towards something real.

However, if you are completely indifferent to the outcome, then by all means, go ahead; programming is fun for its own sake. It's just that the premise of this conversation was misleading.

Re: I have a project in my head and I want to understand the tech needed to build it

#17

Post by tatsean »

changer1 wrote: post #10
tatsean wrote: post #8

Technologically, it should not be an issue at all. To better control cost, you may outsource the technical development works to dev in developing countries. In terms of quality and cost combined, Malaysia should be a good choice.

people i talked to told me not to outsource tech side. they told me if i outsource tech and make them build a demo, still it won't be attractive for a investor because i don't have the team the debug or improve the app inhouse. what would you say to that? for me i feel like i can give 1k usd and get a demo and progress through it.

I guess probably need a trade-off on this. If you have a tech co-founder who can help to implement the idea, that probably is the best. But if no, then need to engage some "outsider" to do the job, the cons for this, probably is the idea could be stolen.
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