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No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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workforce in usa seems pretty good. Have you seen the homeprices they are able to afford ?

But that's the thing. Most people can't afford a home here; we're renters. The exception is upper class people riding stock market hype bubbles.

I think that's a bit disingenuous. Home ownership under 35 is nearly 40%. 35 and up it increases to above 60%

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/07/younger-house... has some nice statistics.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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workforce in usa seems pretty good. Have you seen the homeprices they are able to afford ?

But that's the thing. Most people can't afford a home here; we're renters. The exception is upper class people riding stock market hype bubbles.

False. The homeownership rate is about 66%. Most people can afford a home here.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RHORUSQ156N

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

workforce in usa seems pretty good. Have you seen the homeprices they are able to afford ?

I don’t think you have grasped the catastrophic damage the housing crisis has done to trust in the western economic system. At this point younger generation would put the CCP in charge in they knew they’d fix housing. And they would.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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I want a financial person to explain to me why we continue to expect exponential growth of companies’ revenue year after year, and why that makes any logical sense in a world with finite resources.

Population explosion = growth of consumption and we have not yet hit the finite limit but we eventually will, perhaps soon

Globally the number of children born peaked in 2013-2017. We'll start seeing it once these people come of age.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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But that's the thing. Most people can't afford a home here; we're renters. The exception is upper class people riding stock market hype bubbles.

I think that's a bit disingenuous. Home ownership under 35 is nearly 40%. 35 and up it increases to above 60% https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/07/younger-house... has some nice statistics.

Those numbers are made up, just like all the others.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

I want a financial person to explain to me why we continue to expect exponential growth of companies’ revenue year after year, and why that makes any logical sense in a world with finite resources.

They'll rationalize the irrational.

The thing is, if more of the value produced by labor was directed back towards labor instead of equities, you're going to see far fewer people asking "how is this sustainable?", because they're on the gravy train too, but the equities holders have now gotten so used to being the special kid in the class that they can't fathom not trying to keep labor costs as low as possible.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

I want a financial person to explain to me why we continue to expect exponential growth of companies’ revenue year after year, and why that makes any logical sense in a world with finite resources.

It's a perfectly sustainable model (assuming you're fine with an economic crash every dozen years or so)

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

I want a financial person to explain to me why we continue to expect exponential growth of companies’ revenue year after year, and why that makes any logical sense in a world with finite resources.

Obviously physical limits will bind at some point; indefinite exponential growth implies at some point that each electron in the observable universe is outputting the entire current world GDP every year, which is pretty unlikely under our current understanding of physics. But it's for you to explain why the physical limits bind at the point we happen to be at right now. Why does the observed historical trend break now, rather than (say) in fifty years' time?

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

I want a financial person to explain to me why we continue to expect exponential growth of companies’ revenue year after year, and why that makes any logical sense in a world with finite resources.

Inflation (so numbers grow), different companies at different stages, etc? Also not exponential growth, but just significant growth and crashes every X years

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

workforce in usa seems pretty good. Have you seen the homeprices they are able to afford ?

*the credit they are able to afford

or, rather, the risk financial institutions are willing to take in order to, again, transfer value to shareholders in an ever-increasing manner.

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