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"Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by fsflover »

anticensor wrote: post #9
greatgib wrote: post #4

So sad to see that the Mozilla corporation completely lost its way. I'm wondering if they are really surprised to have almost lost all of their market share when they go against their core values so easily... The tldr that says it all: One Mozilla developer claimed that explaining PPA would be too challenging, so they had to opt users in by default. ... The way it works is that individual browsers report their behavi…

Yeah, why isn't the DP applied at the client side? It's not like a simple Gaussian shuffler is so computationally expensive.

Because the advertisers wouldn't trust that?

Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by brador »

pleasecalllater wrote: post #10

I hope unchecking the setting really disables the feature. I have hard time trusting Mozilla now... or rather I should write "again". On the other hand: there is a ticket [1] asking for container-based-extensions, so something like Grammarly (aka the keylogger) could work only inside a container. It's been there for years, nothing changes. Seems like people are not interested in this kind of privacy stuff. The good n…

For anyone wondering the Moz CEO salary is near $7 million.

Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by blibble »

martin_a wrote: post #3

It's really hard to stick with Mozilla/Firefox due to things like these. I updated my FF yesterday and at this point I make sure to check the settings for suddenly "opted-in" "features" I am not aware of. This one also was a big surprise. If I want to get screwed and sold to the advertisement industry by my browser vendor, I'd simply use Chrome. So please stop it, Firefox.

> So please stop it, Firefox.

with this acquisition https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-t... Mozilla is now an ads company

it's downhill only from here folks

Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by autoexec »

Firefox should have just focused on privacy, security, and customization/personalization. It's a niche that isn't filled by anyone else. That wasn't going to make them rich the way selling out their userbase to advertisers will, but it would have made them loved and successful. Right now, people who want their privacy violated are better off using chrome.

Every time firefox pulls shit like this they piss off and alienate their users. What do they think is going to happen? If I were a Mozilla employee and my goal was to destroy firefox, this is exactly the sort of thing I'd be pushing for. I have no idea what firefox thinks it's doing, or if it's thinking about anything other than how to get more money from advertisers, but it shouldn't be hard see what exploiting users will lead to. Maybe they've already given up and their plan is to sell their users until they don't have any left.

Personally, I'll be exploring alternatives and forks and I'm looking to jump ship as soon as I can.

Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by 1GZ0 »

Legitimate question here: Is there a legit reason to Firefox over Chrome at this point? I mean, its not performance, its not convenience, and now its not even privacy. At this rate, it looks like Firefox is going to end up just like Chrome, but slower and less fully featured.

Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by autoexec »

BoredPositron wrote: post #7

Well, bye bye official Firefox. Not gonna lie it's getting rough in the browser space. What a shame.

Yeah, I can't say I didn't see this day coming, but it's still weird to think I'll be saying goodbye to Firefox after so long. I moved to Firefox from Netscape!

Re: "Privacy-Preserving" Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us yet Again

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Post by prime17569 »

FYI Safari has been doing this (also enabled by default) for years on all Apple platforms.

To disable it on macOS: Safari > Preferences/Settings > Advanced > Uncheck "Allow privacy-preserving measurement of ad effectiveness"

To disable it on iOS: Settings > Safari > Advanced (scroll all the way down) > Turn off "Privacy Preserving Ad Measurement"

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Post by mogoh »

1GZ0 wrote: post #15

Legitimate question here: Is there a legit reason to Firefox over Chrome at this point? I mean, its not performance, its not convenience, and now its not even privacy. At this rate, it looks like Firefox is going to end up just like Chrome, but slower and less fully featured.

Manifest V2/V3 is a reason to still use Firefox. There are still a lot of differences between the two browsers and a monoculture is still bad. How ever I see the pull towards Chromium.

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Post by maccard »

martin_a wrote: post #3

It's really hard to stick with Mozilla/Firefox due to things like these. I updated my FF yesterday and at this point I make sure to check the settings for suddenly "opted-in" "features" I am not aware of. This one also was a big surprise. If I want to get screwed and sold to the advertisement industry by my browser vendor, I'd simply use Chrome. So please stop it, Firefox.

> It's really hard to stick with Mozilla/Firefox due to things like these.

Even with this, it's still better than chrome.

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