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Defeated by A.I., A Legend in the Board Game Go Warns: Get Ready for What's Next

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Post by lancesells »

vagab0nd wrote: post #8
unnouinceput wrote: post #6

Quote: “People used to be in awe of creativity, originality and innovation,” he said. “But since A.I. came, a lot of that has disappeared.” No, it hasn't. If anything AI, as it currently stands, made sure that the "bottom creativity" is gone. For example I am simply anti-talent at drawing. For me a street artist that does caricatures is creativity. Looking closer you see that the artist is actually very limited in hi…

This line of thinking is exactly what Mr Lee is warning us about. "I am very surprised because I have never thought I would lose," What is true creativity? It is whatever creativity AI hasn't conquered. Yet.

The AI is skilled but it is not creative.

Re: Defeated by A.I., A Legend in the Board Game Go Warns: Get Ready for What's Next

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mathsmath wrote: post #7
htrp wrote: post #4

From the article: >“Losing to A.I., in a sense, meant my entire world was collapsing,” he said in a recent interview with The New York Times. >Mr. Lee had a hard time accepting the defeat. What he regarded as an art form, an extension of a player’s own personality and style, was now cast aside for an algorithm’s ruthless efficiency. -------- He also retired 3 years later and has had some time to reflect on the situat…

> What used to take a dedicated research team and millions of dollars of compute (to play professional go), can now be done with a sub $1 gpt4 call (to do something like make strategy slides). Is that an accurate statement, though? AFAIK, the Go-AI was hyper-specific to Go. I don’t think any LLM would approach the level of skill exhibited by those specialized AIs (much less provide valid moves for an entire game in m…

I'd say if you are a copywriter, your job is effectively already gone of you aren't using transformer based large language models

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Post by Slyfox33 »

htrp wrote: post #4

From the article: >“Losing to A.I., in a sense, meant my entire world was collapsing,” he said in a recent interview with The New York Times. >Mr. Lee had a hard time accepting the defeat. What he regarded as an art form, an extension of a player’s own personality and style, was now cast aside for an algorithm’s ruthless efficiency. -------- He also retired 3 years later and has had some time to reflect on the situat…

What? LLMs are definitely not used to play go even close to this level.
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