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HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by aflag »

nehal3m wrote: post #8
izacus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why is your post relevant to the topic at hand? I assume you're not quite a target market for printers then? Or is it a question because you can't imagine anyone still using paper in the world?

In the world is a bit large in scope, I’m trying to gauge whether printing in the HN audience is on the decline I imagine it to be.

I like printing papers and some other material. I know there's e-ink, but they are just worse than pen and paper. I also like printing train tickets so I don't need to stress out about my phone battery. Occasionally I have to mail the government something too.

I never used paper for anything else, so from my point of view, it's not on the decline. But just steady and stable.

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by worksonmine »

nehal3m wrote: post #5

I'm probably super biased because I work in a relatively modern office that produces relatively modern tech, but we barely ever use paper for anything anymore. The same goes for my home office use; I moved a few months ago and left my printer behind. With the advent of QR code tickets and parcel barcodes and iOS's Continuity scanning features I just don't see the point of having a space-, paper- and toner-eating mons…

> With the advent of QR code tickets

Until you need an app that also monitors your neighbors heartbeat just to be able to enter the venue. No thanks I'll keep printing.

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by PKop »

nehal3m wrote: post #5

I'm probably super biased because I work in a relatively modern office that produces relatively modern tech, but we barely ever use paper for anything anymore. The same goes for my home office use; I moved a few months ago and left my printer behind. With the advent of QR code tickets and parcel barcodes and iOS's Continuity scanning features I just don't see the point of having a space-, paper- and toner-eating mons…

Presumably, you can understand there are vast use cases for printed paper extending beyond trivial consumer activities of printing tickets and such yes?

I think nearly everyone on HN is aware of and may use QR code tickets sometimes but that's irrelevant to the broader need for printers in business and government.

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by hippich »

nehal3m wrote: post #5

I'm probably super biased because I work in a relatively modern office that produces relatively modern tech, but we barely ever use paper for anything anymore. The same goes for my home office use; I moved a few months ago and left my printer behind. With the advent of QR code tickets and parcel barcodes and iOS's Continuity scanning features I just don't see the point of having a space-, paper- and toner-eating mons…

Does your office mail anything? That's what is 99% printing we have to do - shipping labels. And some obscure not available to file online government forms.

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by nehal3m »

PKop wrote: post #13
nehal3m wrote: post #5

I'm probably super biased because I work in a relatively modern office that produces relatively modern tech, but we barely ever use paper for anything anymore. The same goes for my home office use; I moved a few months ago and left my printer behind. With the advent of QR code tickets and parcel barcodes and iOS's Continuity scanning features I just don't see the point of having a space-, paper- and toner-eating mons…

Presumably, you can understand there are vast use cases for printed paper extending beyond trivial consumer activities of printing tickets and such yes? I think nearly everyone on HN is aware of and may use QR code tickets sometimes but that's irrelevant to the broader need for printers in business and government.

Yeah I understand, no need for hostility. I prefaced my question with my own bias, I'm just interested in how others feel about it. It's fine if you think HN is aware, but that shouldn't invalidate an honest inquiry.

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by qiine »

ogou wrote: post #9

I found one these all-in-one units out on sidewalk and thought I had scored a cool freebie. It was nearly new. Now I know why they threw it away. Total garbage and bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to con…

"bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to contact them to release their account, even though it was no longer active."

Nice everything is wrong beyond redemption, basically toxic eWaste that somehow manage to also waste your time as an added bonus... job well done !

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

ogou wrote: post #9

I found one these all-in-one units out on sidewalk and thought I had scored a cool freebie. It was nearly new. Now I know why they threw it away. Total garbage and bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to con…

Your opinions about these devices are valid, but I highly doubt that any other country is so stuck to physical mail as is Germany.

To the point that I wonder how it is still functioning.

Only one country away: Denmark.

You are provided with a state issued secure email address for all official communication. No paper. Minimal environmental impact. No looking through the 2013 brief to find a paper from the finanzamt.

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by gray_-_wolf »

nehal3m wrote: post #8
izacus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why is your post relevant to the topic at hand? I assume you're not quite a target market for printers then? Or is it a question because you can't imagine anyone still using paper in the world?

In the world is a bit large in scope, I’m trying to gauge whether printing in the HN audience is on the decline I imagine it to be.

I prefer reading papers on paper, with fountain pen to make notes. It is easier for me to focus on compared to electronics devices (well, I am answering on HN instead of doing things I should be doing)...

Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash

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Post by nehal3m »

hippich wrote: post #14
nehal3m wrote: post #5

I'm probably super biased because I work in a relatively modern office that produces relatively modern tech, but we barely ever use paper for anything anymore. The same goes for my home office use; I moved a few months ago and left my printer behind. With the advent of QR code tickets and parcel barcodes and iOS's Continuity scanning features I just don't see the point of having a space-, paper- and toner-eating mons…

Does your office mail anything? That's what is 99% printing we have to do - shipping labels. And some obscure not available to file online government forms.

Hmm for most forms we use things like DocuSign, but I suppose there must be some that have to be mailed in. For mail we mostly do parcels and those get either a dedicated label printer, or if they're large products, a dedicated transport.

Things I hadn't immediately thought of as an engineer. Good point!

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