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Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Post by defrost »

dotcoma wrote: post #9
defrost wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends entirely on seating capicity and layout and specific numbers. Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue. It's a constraint problem similar to paying extra to not be near children.

What is more expensive? Not having to sit next to a child or not having to sit next to a man? Also: will IndiGo Airlines share with me, a guy, part of the extra money I help them make? ;)

Just ask them: https://www.goindigo.in/flight-booking.html

Block seating isn't hard to work out.

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Post by urbandw311er »

arp242 wrote: post #10

> it said it opened 96 in-flight sexual assault cases in 2023. This seems a very low number; roughly on the same order as number of people who die in an air craft accident (that is: dozens or hundreds/year, rather than thousands or more). Total cases opened was 512 by the way: https://www.faa.gov/unruly

Are you saying they are underestimating the number? Or are you saying that the number isn’t high enough to warrant action? Your comment isn’t clear.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Post by urbandw311er »

laurentlb wrote: post #7

When I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.

I wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.

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Post by d1sxeyes »

urbandw311er wrote: post #13
laurentlb wrote: post #7

When I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.

I wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.

I'm not sure that society has reached a point where sensitivity and sensibility meet on trans rights topics.

I think it's unlikely that an Indian airline will be the first to solve this problem.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Post by d1sxeyes »

urbandw311er wrote: post #12
arp242 wrote: post #10

> it said it opened 96 in-flight sexual assault cases in 2023. This seems a very low number; roughly on the same order as number of people who die in an air craft accident (that is: dozens or hundreds/year, rather than thousands or more). Total cases opened was 512 by the way: https://www.faa.gov/unruly

Are you saying they are underestimating the number? Or are you saying that the number isn’t high enough to warrant action? Your comment isn’t clear.

I believe the first, they're saying that it's about as likely to report being sexually assaulted on a plane as to die in a plane crash, which seems extraordinarily unlikely to be true, and if it IS true, it implies that planes are already safe places, safer than most other environments you'll be in.

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Post by viciousvoxel »

urbandw311er wrote: post #13
laurentlb wrote: post #7

When I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.

I wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.

Really? I'm guessing very much not, given the track record of Islamic countries on LGBTQ+ issues

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Post by rand846633 »

viciousvoxel wrote: post #17
urbandw311er wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.

Really? I'm guessing very much not, given the track record of Islamic countries on LGBTQ+ issues

It’s more complicated than that, for exactly Pakistan recognizes a third sex since years. It’s just rather shitty how they do it…

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Post by freilanzer »

defrost wrote: post #4
dotcoma wrote: post #2

What happens if no women were ok with sitting next to a man?

That depends entirely on seating capicity and layout and specific numbers. Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue. It's a constraint problem similar to paying extra to not be near children.

> Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue

At this point, just don't fly.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Post by defrost »

freilanzer wrote: post #19
defrost wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends entirely on seating capicity and layout and specific numbers. Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue. It's a constraint problem similar to paying extra to not be near children.

> Also whether male across aisle, male in seat ahead or behind is considered an issue At this point, just don't fly.

Why?

Seating is already segregated by quality of service, if the demand is there it's no more difficult to block seat by other criteria.

Is logistics and constraint programming too hard for some?

Perhaps avoid container routing and ship stacking problems.

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