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What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
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#12>>we developed statistical models to predict bird behaviour. These models were based on long-term observations of bird interactions led by Philip Gibbons at the Australian National University. By simulating how birds might use artificial branches, we could refine our designs to better meet their needs. It sounded like a great use of an ML classifier interpreting raw data (possibly video footage?) of bird observations…
Ai is just a tool. Its not necessarily better than any other way of modeling data until you prove it is. That being said it is a newer tool, and whenever a newer tool comes out theres a lot of low hanging fruit for researchers to validate existing notions with the new tool. These won’t be seminal papers or anything but serve as proof of work so the author can get a relevant job.
Re: What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
#13I don't know... you might as well ask people who live near trees which ones are preferred by birds?? I know I have lots of trees around my house and I can clearly see which ones tend to attract birds, and which kinds of birds. And I am no expert... with a little training, people like me might be able to contribute floods of data. But of course, that's not as cool as using lasers to scan trees and AI to analyse the da…
Citizen science approaches are a great way to collect data but the data can also be 'lumpy' (ie. focused on charismatic species, or easy-to-measure things). But the main idea of this approach was to produce quantitative descriptions of trees that could then be fed into a design system. This system can then output many different designs using those as constraints but also other constraints (ie. being lightweight, fitt…
Really neat work. I have a friend who designs green spaces in urban environments and it makes me wonder what he could do with these kinds of tools/approaches.
Re: What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
#14Weird, this seems to have been posted 3 days ago, but now both links converge and I swear I recognize older comments with falsely-newer timestamps.
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#15Weird, this seems to have been posted 3 days ago, but now both links converge and I swear I recognize older comments with falsely-newer timestamps.
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#16Weird, this seems to have been posted 3 days ago, but now both links converge and I swear I recognize older comments with falsely-newer timestamps.
Second-chance pool: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380
> There's one glitch that occasionally confuses people. When the software lobs a story, it displays a rolled-back timestamp—not the original submission time, but a resubmission time relative to other items on the front page
Re: What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
#17Weird, this seems to have been posted 3 days ago, but now both links converge and I swear I recognize older comments with falsely-newer timestamps.
second chance pool. threads get merged and timestamps get updated. it's a bit confusing but no, you're not imagining things.
Re: What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
#18Weird, this seems to have been posted 3 days ago, but now both links converge and I swear I recognize older comments with falsely-newer timestamps.
It was first posted 2024-07-01T09:39:05 - if you mouse over the "8 hours ago" you'll see the true time, or if you click past algolia will show you the age from original submission.
Re: What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
#19I think the presence of predators would be important. We get Sparrow Hawks and the birds like good cover to avoid a surprise attack. We get hawk shaped marks on the windows where the small birds fly towards them and do a quick turn which the hawk can't do.
I noticed the final concept doesnt have much (if any) visual cover - which I imagine plays a large part for a prey animal looking for a safe place.
Re: What makes a good tree? We used AI to ask birds
#20I don't know... you might as well ask people who live near trees which ones are preferred by birds?? I know I have lots of trees around my house and I can clearly see which ones tend to attract birds, and which kinds of birds. And I am no expert... with a little training, people like me might be able to contribute floods of data. But of course, that's not as cool as using lasers to scan trees and AI to analyse the da…
> you might as well ask people who live near trees which ones are preferred by birds
I live in the woods and I have zero idea which trees the birds prefer. They go in most of them, I think. Sadly being near the birds and the trees for years has not made me a bird and tree expert.