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OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by isthatafact »

darthrupert wrote: post #3

This might seem like a childish retort, but I genuinely think that the job of CEO should definitely be given to AIs. I mean, it's both the most expensive and most risky job of them all, and there's nothing a CEO does that even the current LLMs couldn't handle. The ROI should be fairly high.

I suspect an LLM could possibly handle generating the text in a quarterly report, as well as many mundane tasks, but not the question and answer session on the earnings conference call because nuance and judgment is required to communicate critical information to the market.

Besides the non-trivial task of communication, I have the impression that there is a general belief that companies with a bad CEO tend to die and companies with a good CEO often thrive. How would you make sure that the LLM is a good CEO as opposed to a CEO that steers the company toward failure?

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by janice1999 »

apantel wrote: post #10
darthrupert wrote: post #3

This might seem like a childish retort, but I genuinely think that the job of CEO should definitely be given to AIs. I mean, it's both the most expensive and most risky job of them all, and there's nothing a CEO does that even the current LLMs couldn't handle. The ROI should be fairly high.

This is an idiotic take for 2024. A CEO has to hold an enormous amount of information in-brain and make decisions based on all of it, and handle interpersonal relationships, and manage people, etc. LLM’s can barely handle the information in the context windows they have now.

The comment you're responding to is clearly satire. Everything you said could be applied to the creative jobs some people think AI can replace.

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by greenyoda »

isthatafact wrote: post #11
darthrupert wrote: post #3

This might seem like a childish retort, but I genuinely think that the job of CEO should definitely be given to AIs. I mean, it's both the most expensive and most risky job of them all, and there's nothing a CEO does that even the current LLMs couldn't handle. The ROI should be fairly high.

I suspect an LLM could possibly handle generating the text in a quarterly report, as well as many mundane tasks, but not the question and answer session on the earnings conference call because nuance and judgment is required to communicate critical information to the market. Besides the non-trivial task of communication, I have the impression that there is a general belief that companies with a bad CEO tend to die an…

> I suspect an LLM could possibly handle generating the text in a quarterly report...

Except that a quarterly report needs to be free of hallucinations. The SEC doesn't like it when a company makes false statements to its shareholders.

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by ein0p »

chollida1 wrote: post #6
ein0p wrote: post #2

Watch videos with OpenAI execs without sound. It’s quite obvious they’re making up their outlandish claims as they go along. It makes me kind of worried actually that there’s not much more gas in their particular tank and the whole “transformers can do everything” thing is reaching a plateau.

> Watch videos with OpenAI execs without sound. It’s quite obvious they’re making up their outlandish claims as they go along. How does the first sentence lead to the second one here? How are you gleaning anything about that from watching a video with no sound? And why is it obvious that they're making it up as they go?

Body language is a powerful signal that almost nobody can control.

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

threatofrain wrote: post #9
Molitor5901 wrote: post #4

"Some creative jobs maybe will go away," Murati said in an interview at The Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth University last month, as quoted by Fortune. "But maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place." Why should the jobs have not been there in the first place? If someone is willing to pay another person to perform a job, so be it. It's their money. To say it maybe shouldn't have existed in th…

We used to have a job called computer, and people were employed as computers in living memory. When we say that a job does not exist, we speak about how we wish to walk going forward.

OK but you could say that about practically any job - given enough time and technical progress. But in this context we are talking about these few jobs where people really enjoy what they are doing and actually create something genuinely new. If all artist disappear and what we're left with is GenAI feeding on GenAI, it's a bit sad because art is an important part of our culture.[0]

[0] Well, Murati could say, "Maybe it shouldn't be in the first place"...

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by chollida1 »

ein0p wrote: post #14
chollida1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Watch videos with OpenAI execs without sound. It’s quite obvious they’re making up their outlandish claims as they go along. How does the first sentence lead to the second one here? How are you gleaning anything about that from watching a video with no sound? And why is it obvious that they're making it up as they go?

Body language is a powerful signal that almost nobody can control.

Ok, I'll bite.

What specific body language would you look for that clearly shows someone is making an outlandish claim and what specific videos are you referring to?

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by DreamFlasher »

Molitor5901 wrote: post #4

"Some creative jobs maybe will go away," Murati said in an interview at The Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth University last month, as quoted by Fortune. "But maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place." Why should the jobs have not been there in the first place? If someone is willing to pay another person to perform a job, so be it. It's their money. To say it maybe shouldn't have existed in th…

"Some C-level jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place." --ChatGPT-5.0

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by atmavatar »

greenyoda wrote: post #13
isthatafact wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect an LLM could possibly handle generating the text in a quarterly report, as well as many mundane tasks, but not the question and answer session on the earnings conference call because nuance and judgment is required to communicate critical information to the market. Besides the non-trivial task of communication, I have the impression that there is a general belief that companies with a bad CEO tend to die an…

> I suspect an LLM could possibly handle generating the text in a quarterly report... Except that a quarterly report needs to be free of hallucinations. The SEC doesn't like it when a company makes false statements to its shareholders.

Does the SEC really matter anymore now that Chevron was overturned?

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by threatofrain »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #15
threatofrain wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We used to have a job called computer, and people were employed as computers in living memory. When we say that a job does not exist, we speak about how we wish to walk going forward.

OK but you could say that about practically any job - given enough time and technical progress. But in this context we are talking about these few jobs where people really enjoy what they are doing and actually create something genuinely new. If all artist disappear and what we're left with is GenAI feeding on GenAI, it's a bit sad because art is an important part of our culture.[0] [0] Well, Murati could say, "Maybe…

There is a innate human affinity for art. The question is whether young artists will be taking on the prestigious internship of drawing Meg Griffin's eyes. If people love art then let them draw.

Re: OpenAI CTO says AI should displace some creative jobs that shouldn't exist

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Post by mcphage »

DreamFlasher wrote: post #17
Molitor5901 wrote: post #4

"Some creative jobs maybe will go away," Murati said in an interview at The Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth University last month, as quoted by Fortune. "But maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place." Why should the jobs have not been there in the first place? If someone is willing to pay another person to perform a job, so be it. It's their money. To say it maybe shouldn't have existed in th…

"Some C-level jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place." --ChatGPT-5.0

The great thing about replacing C-levels with AI is that nobody would even notice when the AI makes terrible decisions, because it’s expected.
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