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US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

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Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#11
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's now, effectively, illegal to just exist as a homeless person. Sleeping in your car? Jail. Sleeping under a bridge? Jail. Sleeping on a park bench? Jail. Sleeping in the woods? Jail.

3 of those things are simply trespassing.

Where should they sleep?

Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#13

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.”

This is paraphrased unironically right there in the majority opinion. "The public-camping laws prohibit actions undertaken by any person, regardless of status."

Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#14
post #5

Dumb decision, but we really just gotta build more homes mainly. A good overview of why this is the best solution to homelessness: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-...

There are enough vacant homes in the US to give every homeless person 25 homes. That is not the root cause of the problem.

Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#15
Yes and no. They said it’s not cruel and unusual punishment to be fined / spend a few days in jail.

The real issue should have been intent, but the litigants and lower courts didn’t base the case on lack of capacity to comply / lack of mens rea / etc. They wanted a precedent allowing for urban camping even if you’re not homeless.

Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#16
From the majority opinion page 20 [1]:

> Under the city's laws, it makes no difference whether the charged defendant is currently a person experiencing homelessness, a backpacker on vacation, or a student who abandons his dorm room to camp out in protest on the lawn of a municipal building.

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.

[1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf

Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#17
post #9
post #5

Dumb decision, but we really just gotta build more homes mainly. A good overview of why this is the best solution to homelessness: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-...

Why is it a dumb decision?

It makes it, not just de facto, but de jure illegal to be poor. If someone can't afford a home, where are they meant to go? Just fuck off and die?

Re: US Supreme Court allows cities to ban homeless camps

#20
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's now, effectively, illegal to just exist as a homeless person. Sleeping in your car? Jail. Sleeping under a bridge? Jail. Sleeping on a park bench? Jail. Sleeping in the woods? Jail.

3 of those things are simply trespassing.

Would you rather they slept in the sewers?
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